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talljoel
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Was raising with AA the right move Reply with quote

In this situation should I have just called and tried to win more chips from Villa Bled after the flop? Or was my conservative play the proper move?


Full Tilt Poker Game #14646818328: $2 + 0.25 Sit & Go (107613219), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:39:39 ET - 2009/09/12
Seat 2: Villa_Bled (3,625)
Seat 4: talljoel (5,100)
Seat 6: halpat12 (275)
Villa_Bled posts the small blind of 60
talljoel posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to talljoel [Ah Ad]
halpat12 raises to 275, and is all in
Villa_Bled calls 215
talljoel raises to 720
Villa_Bled folds
talljoel shows [Ah Ad]
halpat12 shows [9d Kc]
Uncalled bet of 445 returned to talljoel
*** FLOP *** [6c 3d 4s]
*** TURN *** [6c 3d 4s] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [6c 3d 4s Jc] [8s]
talljoel shows a pair of Aces
halpat12 shows King Jack high
talljoel wins the pot (825) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 825 | Rake 0
Board: [6c 3d 4s Jc 8s]
Seat 2: Villa_Bled (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: talljoel (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (825) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: halpat12 (button) showed [9d Kc] and lost with King Jack high

Your comments are appreciated.
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VRod105
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raising with AA is never wrong. What would you say if you just called pre, bet and got called on the turn, shoved the river and Villa turns over 66?
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DonkSupreme
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure you never want to stop raising and reraising with AA before the flop. Ever.
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G Goddard
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're raising to get heads up with the short stacker and to get value from the limper if he decides to play. Flatting with AA pre is wrong 99% of the time.

Sometimes with the right table dynamic you can try and flat call in order to trap someone who's getting out of line squeezing every hand.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raising with AA was the right move, however, posting the hand here without reading the sticky was not. please read it next time Smile
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DonkSupreme
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only tournamnt scenario where i would fold aces preflop would be at a final table where 8 guys infront of me all had me covered and were already all-in.

Actually, nevermind, i just put AA up against KK,QQ,JJ,KK,QQ,65,88, and J8 and it was still at 55%.....
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DonkSupreme
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only tournamnt scenario where i would fold aces preflop would be at a final table where 8 guys infront of me all had me covered and were already all-in.

Actually, nevermind, i just put AA up against KK,QQ,JJ,KK,QQ,65,88, and J8 and it was still at 55%.....
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marsupial311
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If 8 people were all in ahead of you, you'd definitely fold anything that you weren't 100% to win. 45% you're getting 9th in that situation whereas folding means you have a nearly 100% chance to move up.
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cardfish2
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've become a big fan of slow playing aces, but I don't think this is the right spot for it.
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