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natedoeswork
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 Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject: Tough spot with KJ suited 10+1 45man |
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Full Tilt Poker Game #12858080038: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (95558906), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:50:54 ET - 2009/06/16
Seat 1: prophecy2009 (4,450)
Seat 2: joeysmykid (6,250)
Seat 3: acekicker006 (7,007)
Seat 4: Robb Banks207 (9,319)
Seat 6: hooptoun (21,501)
Seat 7: natedoeswork (4,710)
Seat 8: MENLO650 (1,603)
Seat 9: Paris2020 (12,660)
Paris2020 posts the small blind of 400
prophecy2009 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to natedoeswork [Kd Jd]
joeysmykid folds
acekicker006 folds
Robb Banks207 folds
hooptoun calls 800
natedoeswork folds
MENLO650 folds
Paris2020 folds
prophecy2009 checks
do you shove here? I hate when a big stack limps behind me, what is your play? |
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Kam1972
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| Even though it's possible the large stack is trapping hoping for you short stacks to shove I don't see to much option you have other than a shove at this point. You are nearly at 5xbb, and are at shove pretty much any 2 cards. Can't see how you can wait much longer. |
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hockeetime
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I fold but thats because I hate KJ even though its sooted lol |
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Sand Wedge_100
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You got all the reads.
You are 7/8 at FT and it pays 6.
You either got to win a few blinds-dble up or 2 others gotta bust out b4 ur ITM.
KJ w 1 limper from MP I dont see much better opp. to dbl up and put you in good pos to TID
W/O ANY reads I'm shoving. And with good reads am probally shoving too |
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JDizzzle72
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| fold. you have a full orbit almost before blinds hit again. you want to shove into uncontested pots, not ones where you're going to get called 90% of the time. |
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Sand Wedge_100
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| JDizzzle72 wrote: |
| fold. you have a full orbit almost before blinds hit again. you want to shove into uncontested pots, not ones where you're going to get called 90% of the time. |
WTF is this?? Some kind of role reversal?? 
You the one who pwns the $10-45 man I defer to JD  |
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PokerJessO
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JDizzzle72 wrote: |
| fold. you have a full orbit almost before blinds hit again. you want to shove into uncontested pots, not ones where you're going to get called 90% of the time. |
You probably will get called (although 90% is an awfully high estimate), but I think you will be ahead most of the time. The big stack could likely be trapping, but it's more likely that he just wants to see a cheap flop.
I wouldn't put him on a medium-low ace or a better king, since he'd very likely just raise. He could easily have a hand like QJ, KT, smaller pairs, or lower suited or connected cards. Yes, you will occasionally run into big hands here, but more often than not you'll be ahead IMO. |
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JDizzzle72
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| with hero's stack i dont want to have my chips in the middle unless im trtying to steal, or almost guaranteed a flip or better if called. and we are very infrequently winning this pot preflop given villains stack. i don't think we're flipping+ enough here for me oto be putting chips in the middle. even though he only has 6 BB, if we can get a double up or steal twice, our stack s very playable. we have time as the blinds just passed, as i already said. if this was an unopened pot, i shove all day. |
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