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adam27x
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 Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: topping yourself off in cash games, in general |
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I couldn't find any posts about this topic: Let's say you get a shortstack in an NL cash game (not necessarily hold em, strasse) all in and he wins and your 100BB buy-in is now reduced to say, 40BB or so...would everyone here automatically top themselves off back to 100BB if they are still very comfortable with playing at the same table? Or would most players just to try to work around with the 40BB's to try to get back even first?
And if you would/wouldn't top yourself off with 40BB when would you instead do it? |
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Moshiach
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| auto-rebuy to 100bb every time |
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WhatASurprise
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah. Always reload full. Maximizes your edge post- flop and you win more when you doubble up. |
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phreeflo
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| WhatASurprise wrote: |
| Yeah. Always reload full. Maximizes your edge post- flop and you win more when you doubble up. |
I usually assume someone who loses half their stack and doesn't rebuy is playing somewhat timid.
Why wouldn't you want to have the maximum chips in your stack for when you get someone all in with the best hand... more chips to bet is more monies to win.
I use the auto top-up feature it's great. |
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live4freerolls
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Max reload everytime. Always having the max on the table is essential. |
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UFO1947
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| max rebuy, what if the next hand you get AA and stack someone? would you rather win 40bb or 100bb? |
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Riddim
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There's a reason that one of the most reliable ways of finding fish is to look for people sitting with less than 100 BBs.
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Tiera Starr
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| It is not so important with limit games, or cap games, but with NL or PL games, it is considered good practice to maintain a max buyin. |
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rcgrady
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though i agree with the reload move. i do not practice it every time. and the reason why is simple and also risky. use the what if i hit AA the next hand with only 40BB. well the first thought that comes to mind of 7 players right away is weak making a tilt move. (9 out of 10 times if you min bet in that spot) you will get 2 callers and i guy that thinks he can shove you out. you will at minimum double but most times more than tripple your stack. it all depends on your table image. i like to ride short and grind back up, unless the table is killing me with river beats then i full re-load and mark my targets that keep playing junk and getting lucky. then you crush them with your strang hands.
before i get flamed on this, poker is about 1 thing keep them guessing and using veriance to your own advantage. |
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Sand Wedge_100
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| Riddim wrote: |
| There's a reason that one of the most reliable ways of finding fish is to look for people sitting with less than 100 BBs. |
So thats how you found me  Dont play ring games anymore |
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Mrlova
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Personally I don't use auto top up or whatever its called but whenever I drop below my buy in I usually do top up as soon as I can. |
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UFO1947
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| rcgrady wrote: |
though i agree with the reload move. i do not practice it every time. and the reason why is simple and also risky. use the what if i hit AA the next hand with only 40BB. well the first thought that comes to mind of 7 players right away is weak making a tilt move. (9 out of 10 times if you min bet in that spot) you will get 2 callers and i guy that thinks he can shove you out. you will at minimum double but most times more than tripple your stack. it all depends on your table image. i like to ride short and grind back up, unless the table is killing me with river beats then i full re-load and mark my targets that keep playing junk and getting lucky. then you crush them with your strang hands.
before i get flamed on this, poker is about 1 thing keep them guessing and using veriance to your own advantage. |
i would rather have the 100bbs and make them think I'm on tilt |
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nilgiri
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| rcgrady wrote: |
though i agree with the reload move. i do not practice it every time. and the reason why is simple and also risky. use the what if i hit AA the next hand with only 40BB. well the first thought that comes to mind of 7 players right away is weak making a tilt move. (9 out of 10 times if you min bet in that spot) you will get 2 callers and i guy that thinks he can shove you out. you will at minimum double but most times more than tripple your stack. it all depends on your table image. i like to ride short and grind back up, unless the table is killing me with river beats then i full re-load and mark my targets that keep playing junk and getting lucky. then you crush them with your strang hands.
before i get flamed on this, poker is about 1 thing keep them guessing and using veriance to your own advantage. |
I'm not sure what stakes you are playing, but at $100nl and above this trick will rarely work. And when it does work, it probably would have worked with 100 bbs, too.
I'd rather buy back with 100 bbs and keep playing solid poker, no matter what cards I get dealt next.
I auto-top off as well, but at deep tables I only auto-top off at 100 bbs. This is because at the stakes I play ($400nl and $600nl), I haven't really been rolled for 200 bbs (although now I am for $400nl, but now I'm starting to take stabs at $1000nl anyway), and I don't feel that dropping down (to $200nl) to play deep is going to be as profitable as playing 100 bbs deep at $400nl.
The exception to this is if there is a fish at one of these tables that has actually bought in deep. This is rare, but sometimes happens. Then I'll either drop down or push my BR limits, depending on which stakes he is at. |
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adam27x
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| This is exactly the response I was expecting...great...but now I've thought of something else: how does topping yourself off play into bankroll management? If you're rolled for exactly 20 games at 100BB's at a certain buy-in there has to be a point at which you can't keep topping yourself off? Hopefully this makes sense. |
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UFO1947
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| adam27x wrote: |
| This is exactly the response I was expecting...great...but now I've thought of something else: how does topping yourself off play into bankroll management? If you're rolled for exactly 20 games at 100BB's at a certain buy-in there has to be a point at which you can't keep topping yourself off? Hopefully this makes sense. |
when you can't top yourself up at a certin level because you now only have like 10 buyins left then it is time to drop down a level. |
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