Online Poker Forum - SNG ROI Good start?

shadygradyd · High Card Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 2

shadygradyd 29 $4 $4 76% $115 - 75 FullTilt SNG Only

76% ROI started with 30.00 and I'm up to 130.00. Not too shabby and these forums have helped a ton!

Thanks!

Danduy · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject:

Looks very good.

The hardest challenge will be to hold these numbers. Keep it up.

fat rugger · Royal Flush Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 788

Yeah man great start!

Just don't be to torn up if you can't keep that huge ROI up forever.

cubbies760 · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:

You may (or may not) be playing well, but you're definately running well on a hot streak. Don't expect this to continue over the long haul. You'll be doing very well if you can maintain a 10%+ ROI long-term.

DforDissent · Royal Flush Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 669

At the lower buyins of the 9handed SnG, it is funny how bad the late-stage play is, so if you are just playing the patience game until 5handed then it is sure possible that you are just playing a lot better than most of your competition. Just make sure it's not just that you're running as good as aba. Wink

Shoot for 10%-25% ROI long term (until the higher buyins) and if you are somehow at like 40%-80% ROI over even just a few dozen more matches, be happy but take the time to analyze why you are so much above expectation. Look through your hand history and make sure your bigger pots were won by your higher skill and "getting your chips in good", rather than by you primarily sucking out.

The WORST thing that can happen in poker (in general, SnG or MTT or cash games) is to be lucky enough to build your BR for a while with bad play, move up a level or two based on "correct" BRM guidelines or even "where you feel you should be playing", then finally when variance balances it all out, and your dog hands start losing as often as they "should", you lose all of your profits and then some, and even after dropping down you can no longer beat even those lower levels, and thus you kill your entire BR. (Kinda what happened to me this month in the extremely-high-variance headsup Limit Holdem games, then I was on tilt enough that I thought the PLO 6max micros would be an "easy" way to get back to the level "where I felt I should be playing" Rolling Eyes

I really shoulda just played a lower-variance game to recover my losses, taking the time and lower-pressure situation to really analyze my game and plug my leaks -- which ironically I did end up doing finally, during this past week, but *at the Play Money tables*, even though most other players weren't playing solidly since it's not Real Money I pretended like it was and tried to make correct decisions every chance I could and left tables where I had no edge or it was too much of a luckfest/maniac lottery... something I almost forgot how to do while on my "rush".)

/Essay Wink

shadygradyd · High Card Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 2

I'm playing the waiting game until 4-5 people are left and then I loosen up a bit. I really like being more aggressive once I'm in the money.

uconnrounder · Two Pair Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 51

Not to be a wet blanket, but anybody telling you that a 25% roi is sustainable even at the low stakes is wrong. If you're playing $2-$6 9man sngs, shoot for a 15% roi over the long haul and don't be at all disappointed if you have anything above 10%.

You're definitely correct to be playing these tight until you near the bubble. That's the point where you should start becoming very aggressive (super aggressive if you are the big stack because everybody is afraid to bubble and are correct to be calling you very narrow, even if they know you are pushing wide). Quite often it is easier and more correct to be super aggressive 4 handed than it is to be really aggressive after getting ITM simply because your fold equity is decreased after the bubble bursts.

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