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Rhys Parslow
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reworded: Please Help, How many BI's do i need to do this? Thanks Reply with quote

Ive had an idea and wouldnt mind some feedback from sit n go players, I have now finally decided that 6 Max 1 table sit n gos are the strongest part of my game. Ive lost alot of money trying out other things and seem to only have been successful at these. So heres my plan, ive decided that im going to deposit a large quantity of money to either play $11+1 6 max turbos or $6+0.50 6 max turbos. What do you guys feel would be an appropriate amount to deposit for both buy ins, which ever is more realistic for my bank balance is what i will do, well i guess not how much but how many of these should i play, i guess i can do the simple maths. Im hoping that doing this will build me a successful bankroll to either move up in the sng buy ins or continue to play at these levels and try out other things with my profit to improve those areas but also to control the variance of the other parts of my game. Thanks in Advance

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aelfinn
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always like to have about 25 buy ins for sit and goes. But I don't play the turbos so you may want a few more in order to compensate for the increased variance that inevitably comes with turbos.
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Azonicbh
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well , it all depends on your ressources and how much risk you are willing to take.

I've answered a lot of questions regarding that already , but here are a few things you should take into consideration ...

-Having 20 buy-ins would be a minimum . Even with 20 buy-ins there is a risk of going broke. So you must be willing to redeposit. That is , assuming you are a solid player . If all goes well though , with 20 buy ins , it should enable you to climb up faster in stakes.

- If you are not willing to redeposit and don't tolerate too much risk well , then I would suggest opting for a more conservative approach which would be 40 buy-ins . With 40 buy-ins , if you are a solid player , then you should be able to move up fairly quickly and avoid going broke. Although , this would require you to move down in stakes if you had to. So lets say you play the 12$ games , you should have a bankroll of at least 480$ to play those. Should your bankroll go down , you would have to move down to the 6,50$ games.

-Regardless of which approach you want to take , I would strongly advice you against playing 24$ games without 50 buy ins . That is assuming you play 1 or 2 games at a time. The reason is simple , there are a lot better players once you get at those stakes thus the variance will be higher. If you plan on multi tabling 3 to 6 tables , then try to go for a 75+ buy-in approach. If you are looking at griding those stakes with a large volume (7 to 12 tables) then you should have at least a 100 buy-in for any stake 24$ or higher.
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VRod105
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember that FullTilt Turbos are Super Turbos
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fat rugger
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VRod105 wrote:
Remember that FullTilt Turbos are Super Turbos

There are both turbo's and super turbo's. And obv the difference is huge.


I'll tell you what I do and you can take it for what it is worth (probably not much)

I play full ring non-turbos. I like to keep >50 buyins available but preferably more like 60 or 70. But would probably not drop down a level unless it went to less than 40 buy ins.
If I were going to be playing turbos I would probably want to keep a few more.
I like to keep a little cushion in my stack so I can go play MTT's and cash games if I feel like it without worrying about effecting my STT game.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azonicbh is right here.

an absolute minimum would be 20-25 buy-ins.

I personally play 50 buy-ins so that a buy-in only would represent 2% of your total bankroll so you can play rather relaxed then always being rather oncomforteble (or something) with only 150$ playing 24$ sit & go's.

For instance you play with 250$ the 5,5$ sit & go's. And when you've reached 500$ go ahead and play the 11$ sit & go's untill you reach 1000$ and when you drop back to 25 buy-ins, drop a level.

This way you always have a goal to work to at any stake you play. If you reach 250.000$ you can set your goal for a Bugatti Veyron or so. I'm only 1.699.500$ away from that Laughing

Good luck and maybe we will meet at the table some day!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're playing turbos i would definitely recommend 40 BI's+ as a minimum. i would say since you want to play 6-max turbos, where the variance is rather high, try to keep your roll above 50BI's. if you plan to multi-table, keep it higher still. reduces your chance of going broke.

i'm extremely nitty when it comes to this, but i play 9-handed reg SNG's, and i didn't move up levels until i had 50BI's for the next level. i just felt more comfortable with that 'buffer' so to speak.
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MPMTL
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VRod105 wrote:
Remember that FullTilt Turbos are Super Turbos


No, they're not.

If you're playing the turbos, I like 50 buy-ins.

If you're playing the regular games.... 30 buy-ins.

This also varies if you're a good player or not.
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Rhys Parslow
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MPMTL"]
VRod105 wrote:
Remember that FullTilt Turbos are Super Turbos


No, they're not.

I Agree they are nothing alike, i like the turbos because i seem to be able to dominate early on in them

If you're playing the turbos, I like 50 buy-ins.

This seems to be the general idea, i think this is going to be what i use

If you're playing the regular games.... 30 buy-ins.

I may keep 30 BI'S aside to play some $10+1 regs and $5+0.50 regs

This also varies if you're a good player or not

I think considering 6 man sit n gos at these stakes i am a good player

Thanks for all you advise guys
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