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I have been in this position a lot of times....and I want some body to please coherently explain the intricacies involved in calling an all in or raising a raise with AK (suited or off suited.)

We have more than a few cases here:

For all of them lets assume we have around 30 BB (if BB is 200 our stack is 6000chips)
Lets say the average stack size is around 13000-15000 and its bubble time (near 1-5 players from bubble)

1) You are MP and have AK

A player (bigger stack) opens raising(3-betting) pre flop. What
to do?

2) You are Late position

A small stack goes all in ..Call or not?

3) You are in late position

A big stack 3-bet...you go all in or not.

4) You are UTG or early position

Go all in or 3-4 bet?

5) Please touch any other scenarios I missed.

I want to know, ourselves being a short stack......do we go for 50% chances here or have to stay put and hope bubble arrives before blings eat us away?

Thanks a lot!

tjb111 · Royal Flush Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 885

depends on the buy in i think

if your playing out of your BR...id say just try to hang in there for the bit of profit you make for cashing....

i like folding it UTG .... and i like calling the SS all in...

i dont like calling the 3 bet against a big stack.. but if i still got a bit of chips left ill consider calling and seeing how the flop plays out

im not 2 great at NL hold-em though..but i think its the correct move

if you are looking finish deep/..AKs is one of your best chances...call All the way!!!...

Kam1972 · Pair Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 31

Personally I don't think any answers are right when it comes to the cards. At this point its normally all about the players. What do you know about them at this point? What do they know about you? Certainly good players with reasonable stacks are going to use this point to bully the fearful ones looking at the bubble and their stacks, so it more often comes down to picking your fight with which player as much as which cards to fight with and where your position is.

Do you call an all in from a low stack? Guess that depends on how smalll a stack they have, how much damage it will do to you if you don't match up and they do, and how desperate they are looking, and how long they have been sat not putting chips in. If they been sat a long time then odds are they were waiting for the best they could get, but if not they may be just pushing in hope with a marginal hand.

So for me personally, ALL the situations you asked about are about the players at the table. Have they shown they won't fold? Have they shown they will fold to pressure coming back at them from a better table position? Etc etc. Never just as simple as the cards for me, so makes the answer pick your fights based on the player first.

Me personally odds are I'd want to have a good bash with the AK, as cashing is nice, and always the first aim, but most tables get a little tight around the bubble, and its a good way to get a jump up in chip stack if it works out, and then more chance of more cash still. But hey, I'm no pro player, so what do I know. Very Happy

jesse6520 · Straight Flush Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 367

it really depends on how big, big is.

Generally, you should always call the small stack's all in. I usually fold to 3bets unless it is a CO, SB type thing where both their ranges are moderatley wide. I usually do not 3bet it to akward sizes, I either shove or smooth and play. I hate 3betting to like 40% of my stack or somthing like that cus then i have a lot of trouble deciding what to do on flops and also i feel like you gain more equity just shoving pre with like 15-17bb. Its usually read dependant but usually you just wanna stick it in with AK.

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