Online Poker Forum - Push pre? Fold after the flop?

GNS1310 · Pair Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 49

I wanted to trap with the Jacks and double up...

Full Tilt Poker Game #13737371921: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (101397235), Table 1 - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:55:15 ET - 2009/07/31
Seat 3: GNS1310 (4,140)
Seat 9 ***** (9,360)
***** posts the small blind of 200
GNS1310 posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #9
***** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GNS1310 [Jc Js]
***** calls 200
GNS1310 raises to 1,200
***** calls 800
*** FLOP *** [4h Qc 4c]
GNS1310 ...?

IABoomer · Moderator Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 8175

I trimmed your post to be more conducive to discussion.

NilesMonkey · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject:

Is shoving the flop not an option?

dcdoorknob · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject:

You've got 10 BBs. I'm shoving this (and a whole lot of worse hands than this) pre.

GNS1310 · Pair Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 49

fat rugger · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 1034

Shoving pre is probably best. But I understand the urge to try to get action on your jacks and I won't asy I have never done anything similar. That said I am shoving pretty much every flop regardless of what it is.

I'd shove that flop all day. If he has one over, which is a fair chance. Then it is still only a 27% chance that it is the queen. (3 queens leftin the deck / 11 overs left in the deck).

Even if you have him on two overs to your jj its only like a 57% chance (I think) that one of them is the queen. And with that in mind it is probably worth shoving with almost almost 1/3 of your stack already in.

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