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NoWhammiesSTOP
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Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Skill game? LOLOL Reply with quote

This is by no means 'unusual'. My pocket kings lose heads up no less than 80% of the time I play them. I would really just love to lose a game once and think 'wow, I was outplayed!', instead of seeing 56 vs my kk, and knowing full well before you even see any cards what's going to happen. This is such garbage.

The best part is that these **** idiots are talking **** to me about my ratings. How exactly are you supposed to defend your ratings when even your coinflips are 2 headed coins, not in your favor?

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Full Tilt Poker Game #6546916620: Tier Two $24+$2 Sit & Go (49765561), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:15:33 ET - 2008/05/24
Seat 1: Kesaco (1,590)
Seat 2: HoldemKorea (1,455)
Seat 3: henning79 (1,470)
Seat 4: paul0321 (1,500)
Seat 5: BREWCITY22 (1,500)
Seat 6: FishandChipsPls (1,500)
Seat 7: NoWhammiesSTOP (1,500)
Seat 8: frenchaix (1,485)
Seat 9: kasketten (1,500)
henning79 posts the small blind of 15
paul0321 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NoWhammiesSTOP [Qc Qh]
BREWCITY22 folds
FishandChipsPls folds
NoWhammiesSTOP has 15 seconds left to act
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 60
frenchaix folds
kasketten calls 60
Kesaco folds
HoldemKorea folds
henning79 folds
paul0321 calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5h Qd]
paul0321 has 15 seconds left to act
paul0321 bets 90
NoWhammiesSTOP has 15 seconds left to act
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 180
kasketten has 15 seconds left to act
kasketten calls 180
paul0321 has 15 seconds left to act
paul0321 raises to 750
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 1,440, and is all in
kasketten calls 1,260, and is all in
paul0321 calls 690, and is all in
NoWhammiesSTOP shows [Qc Qh]
kasketten shows [7d 8d]
paul0321 shows [Td 9d]
*** TURN *** [Jd 5h Qd] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5h Qd Ad] [6c]
NoWhammiesSTOP shows three of a kind, Queens
kasketten shows a flush, Ace high
paul0321 shows a flush, Ace high
paul0321 wins the pot (4,515) with a flush, Ace high
kasketten stands up
NoWhammiesSTOP stands up
The blinds are now 20/40
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,515 | Rake 0
Board: [Jd 5h Qd Ad 6c]
Seat 1: Kesaco didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HoldemKorea (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: henning79 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: paul0321 (big blind) showed [Td 9d] and won (4,515) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: BREWCITY22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: FishandChipsPls didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: NoWhammiesSTOP showed [Qc Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: frenchaix didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: kasketten showed [7d 8d] and lost with a flush, Ace high



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Full Tilt Poker Game #6546728101: $12,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (49073133), Table 6 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:58:09 ET - 2008/05/24
Seat 1: Balumiporo (1,550)
Seat 3: Kurva2 (2,100)
Seat 4: CRICKY10 (1,300)
Seat 5: All Upinyerpu (5,310)
Seat 6: NoWhammiesSTOP (3,460)
Seat 7: RUIB (3,485)
Seat 8: terry56 (1,840)
Seat 9: Jimmy De (1,265)
All Upinyerpu posts the small blind of 25
NoWhammiesSTOP posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NoWhammiesSTOP [Ks Kh]
Steeeeug sits down
Steeeeug adds 3,240
RUIB folds
terry56 folds
Jimmy De calls 50
Balumiporo folds
Kurva2 folds
CRICKY10 has 15 seconds left to act
CRICKY10 raises to 225
All Upinyerpu has 15 seconds left to act
All Upinyerpu folds
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 3,460, and is all in
Jimmy De has 15 seconds left to act
Jimmy De folds
CRICKY10 calls 1,075, and is all in
NoWhammiesSTOP shows [Ks Kh]
CRICKY10 shows [6d 5d]
Uncalled bet of 2,160 returned to NoWhammiesSTOP
*** FLOP *** [2d 4s 5h]
*** TURN *** [2d 4s 5h] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [2d 4s 5h 8s] [5c]
NoWhammiesSTOP shows two pair, Kings and Fives
CRICKY10 shows three of a kind, Fives
CRICKY10 wins the pot (2,675) with three of a kind, Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,675 | Rake 0
Board: [2d 4s 5h 8s 5c]
Seat 1: Balumiporo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Kurva2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: CRICKY10 (button) showed [6d 5d] and won (2,675) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: All Upinyerpu (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: NoWhammiesSTOP (big blind) showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 7: RUIB didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: terry56 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Jimmy De folded before the Flop
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Autosuggestion
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 02 May 2007
Posts: 1698
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first hand you played so bad, it hurts.
The second hand you got unlucky. Boohoo.
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keegs22
Royal Flush


Joined: 03 Apr 2008
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First hand, they were on a draw and hit. Second hand, as KK is a monster of small suited connectors it is only a 75 / 25 favorite, that means you lose 1 out of 4 times.
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 6431
Location: Halifax, NS

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

59% and 77%? pretty tame beats

and yeah if you're regularly playing like you did in the QQ hand, no wonder you're losing. try making some strategy posts or something and learn how to play better.
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Raddow
Royal Flush


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 751

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it'S news to you people risk all chips every time online with a flush draw?
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NoWhammiesSTOP
Pair


Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my play was at fault in any way, by all means, please educate. I would like to get something out of it all.
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Badlydrawnboy
Flush


Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 127

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QQ hand was played badly because of the minraises. But I guess almost everybody here would have been all-in eventually. The only thing is, you could have pushed him out of the hand by betting bigger preflop, so you wouldn't have this loss.

As they say, with hands like AA, KK or QQ, you win small pots but lose big ones.
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NoWhammiesSTOP
Pair


Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't win a game today. Tell me this was a bad play. They ALL go like this. I swear im either cursed or it's fake. There's no variance. No coinflip. I lose.

The only thing that keeps me playing is the hope that things eventually do even out. If AK hits vs my pocket pair 90% of the time, maybe eventually the swing will get even kinda close to 50/50. that would be huge!

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Full Tilt Poker Game #6552898957: Tier One $8+$0.80 (49809674), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:14:49 ET - 2008/05/25
Seat 1: LORDRUPERT (1,545)
Seat 2: DavePinFL (1,410)
Seat 3: pattimac (1,455)
Seat 4: tragedy911 (1,470)
Seat 5: IAM2WISE4U (1,440)
Seat 6: NoWhammiesSTOP (1,500)
Seat 7: TheRatDogg (1,500)
Seat 8: cut777 (1,635)
Seat 9: dajaildog (1,545)
tragedy911 posts the small blind of 15
IAM2WISE4U posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NoWhammiesSTOP [Jc Jd]
NoWhammiesSTOP has 15 seconds left to act
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 90
TheRatDogg has 15 seconds left to act
TheRatDogg folds
cut777 has 15 seconds left to act
cut777 raises to 315
dajaildog folds
LORDRUPERT folds
DavePinFL folds
pattimac folds
tragedy911 folds
IAM2WISE4U folds
NoWhammiesSTOP calls 225
*** FLOP *** [2s 2d 6d]
NoWhammiesSTOP checks
cut777 bets 675
NoWhammiesSTOP raises to 1,185, and is all in
cut777 calls 510
NoWhammiesSTOP shows [Jc Jd]
cut777 shows [Ac Kh]
*** TURN *** [2s 2d 6d] [As]
*** RIVER *** [2s 2d 6d As] [5c]
NoWhammiesSTOP shows two pair, Jacks and Twos
cut777 shows two pair, Aces and Twos
cut777 wins the pot (3,045) with two pair, Aces and Twos
NoWhammiesSTOP: lol
NoWhammiesSTOP stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,045 | Rake 0
Board: [2s 2d 6d As 5c]
Seat 1: LORDRUPERT didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: DavePinFL didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: pattimac (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: tragedy911 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: IAM2WISE4U (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: NoWhammiesSTOP showed [Jc Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Twos
Seat 7: TheRatDogg didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: cut777 showed [Ac Kh] and won (3,045) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 9: dajaildog didn't bet (folded)
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 6431
Location: Halifax, NS

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would probably re-raise preflop, but calling isn't bad. Once your opponent bets, he pretty much has to call a shove because he is getting 5:1 odds and he has 6 outs for a 3:1 shot. Plus he might have the best hand, if you had been shoving with a hand like AQ or AJ. Bad luck for you, but I don't think your opponent's play was wrong.
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NoWhammiesSTOP
Pair


Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not bad luck. It's every time I go heads up with the best hand. A card left _always_ hits against me. Any luck at all would be it holding up.
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 6431
Location: Halifax, NS

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoWhammiesSTOP wrote:
It's not bad luck. It's every time I go heads up with the best hand. A card left _always_ hits against me. Any luck at all would be it holding up.


No, it's not. You have been running bad for a while. If you keep blaming bad luck and refuse to improve your play, your results aren't going to get any better.
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NoWhammiesSTOP
Pair


Joined: 22 May 2008
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wohooo. Folded AA preflop. 77 vs AT. 77 hits quads. I've learned my lesson!
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NilesMonkey
Three of a Kind


Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 89
Location: Albany, NY

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoWhammiesSTOP wrote:
Wohooo. Folded AA preflop. 77 vs AT. 77 hits quads. I've learned my lesson!


You did learn a lesson... that you can't lose if you don't play. Can't win either, but I guess that doesn't matter that much to you, right?

So, there ya go. If you are so concerned about not losing to bad beats, just fold every hand. I guarantee you won't experience a bad beat ever again.
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Raddow
Royal Flush


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 751

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoWhammiesSTOP wrote:
Wohooo. Folded AA preflop. 77 vs AT. 77 hits quads. I've learned my lesson!


lol
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alex j beeson
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 1255

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoWhammiesSTOP wrote:
Wohooo. Folded AA preflop. 77 vs AT. 77 hits quads. I've learned my lesson!


If you like money you might not want to do that very often.....
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