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radionikmook · Pair Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 31

Hello,

Here is my hand. Is it a good play to call this reraise ?
I guess it's a weak play, but a the pot is getting big, I just wondering...
Tx
Mat

BTN: 2,985
SB: 2,940
BB: 3,000
UTG: 3,075
UTG+1: 3,000
UTG+2: 3,000
MP1: 3,000
MP2: 3,000
Hero (CO): 3,000

Pre-Flop: (45) J

T

dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG raises to 60, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 60, MP1 raises to 210, MP2 calls 210, Hero calls 210, 3 folds, UTG calls 150, UTG+2 folds

Flop: (945) T

6

A

(4 Players)
UTG bets 330, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 660, Hero folds, UTG calls 330

mgodd · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:01 am Post subject:

I would just muck it pre-flop. That is the type of hand you love to see cheap flops with. I guess you could argue that you are getting good odds to call there, but with a raise and reraise in front, you really have to crush the flop with your hand for it to be any good here.

cardfish2 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:18 am Post subject:

First off, NEVER min raise pre flop with the blinds that small. What is the point? Either limp it or make a real raise if you want to play it.

As played, just fold it up.

mgodd · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:

Hero did not make the min raise...although I do agree with your point.

cardfish2 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:50 am Post subject:

Yeah, read it wrong. I hate these converted HHs no matter what everyone else says. I guess that advice was for the UTG player.

Plus, that makes the preflop call even worse. There is a real chance that UTG will raise again and then you HAVE to fold pre.

dcdoorknob · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:20 am Post subject:

If this wasn't double stacked I would think it was really horrible. Even as is, I prefer a fold. Give the UTG raiser respect and the reraiser of UTG more respect until they have proven that they doesn't deserve it. Cardfish makes a very good point about the possibility that UTG will raise again.

nilgiri · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

Yes, fold this.
Calling the original minraise would be fine.

Raddow · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 751

Agree with most said above.

U can call the 60 easy with the given stacks and it's most likely u will be in position and you have a fairly good hand to see a cheap flop with medium suited connectors. But the re-raise makes me insta-fold JTs pre-flop

Badlydrawnboy · Flush Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127

Calling that reraise just "because the pot is getting big" is a mistake. You should try to enter it as cheaply as possible, in the hope that the pot will become much bigger on the following streets and nobody expects you to have hit a monster hand.

Here, you have to invest way too much to see the flop with a speculative hand.

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