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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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Location: Halifax, NS
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: SH - typical annoying river spots with marginal hands |
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BB is a very loose/bad player. He basically calls down with any pair, any gutshot, any two overcards, no matter what the board or actions. He's well in excess of 60% VPIP, and I'm sure his range for calling preflop from the BB is 100%. He also usually bets when checked to, and I have seen him value bet 4th pair on a board that had four to a straight.
I continued to bet the turn because there's really no indication that I'm beat. Then he makes the annoying donk bet on the river, which annoys me so much because he can be value betting a ridiculous range of pairs, but I can be good here occaisionally, and I am getting 6-1 or so.
Do you guys usually find yourselves calling here? What is the weakest hand that you would call with?
I think one of the things I need work on in limit is figuring out the right ranges of hands to call these types of bets with - every time I call and am beaten I think I am calling down too loose, but then I start folding a bit more and get suspicious that I am folding too often.
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
Pre-Flop: A 7 dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls
Flop: (4.5 SB) 5 3 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls
Turn: (3.25 BB) 3 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls
River: (5.25 BB) K (2 Players)
BB bets, Hero ??? |
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Honest_Rob
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Location: counting my blessings
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Against a player like that I think 6-1 is more than enough to call down here. I guess he's trying to rep the King but he could be on a flush/straight draw that missed or really anything according to your description. Ace high is good here often enough to make a call at 6-1 profitable imo. |
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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| With the way you have described your opponent, its close i think. If he calls down with any pair as you say, you are beat. If he called down with overs, then the K may very well have hit him. But if you really feel he defends the BB with almost ATC, then there are a **** of hands you can beat here, including many busted draws. At 6 to 1, i'm calling (and then probably tearing my hair out when i see his K4o) |
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