Online Poker Forum - Pocket 9s push in bb, or not without any equity

LiamHooks · Full House Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

Hi basically im on a bit of a downswing and as usual because of this being critical of myself and looking for leaks in my game

Yesterday i was playing a 9 seat $20+2 SNG with pocket 9s in the bb, it was folded round and the sb made it 600 at 200 blinds, I pushed my 99 and the sb had just over 1300 left behind, and if i lost this pot i was down to about 4.5bbs.

Blinds up to 300 at the next level and im on less than 10bbs if i dont build my stack before then so i took my chance. Was this a bad play as I had little or no fold equity? and i was most likely flipping, small chance im dominating, and a small chance im dominated? There were also still 6 players in this SNG.

Apolagies for not having the hand history but i am not currently on my own PC

Fimbu · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:43 am Post subject:

A bit hard to say without the HH, but sounds about ok. You sound a bit short stacked for the blind lvl and bether get lucky soon, so with a nice PP and a bet in front of you from the SB I say gogo.

Is it even posible to have Fold Equity at less than 10BB ?

Looking forward to see what others think.

LiamHooks · Full House Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

Sorry I will try to elaborate, I had around 2800, and the pfr had around 1930. He raised to 600, and I put him all in. Yes I believe you usually dont have fold equity with less than 10bbs, maybe if he made it 400-500 he would have some.

Yes with the blinds up to 300 next as was playing on absolute structure, I would soon be playing push/fold poker, and i might not see a better hand or oppurtunity than 99 to a possible steal raise again, so I seen this as an oppurtunity I must take, then when i loat the flip against AT, I began to second guess myself as usual

Devilz91 · Four of a Kind Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 343

99 is the nuts in a blind vs. blind battle.

fat rugger · Royal Flush Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 787

I'd probably shove here too.

As far as the 10bb fold equity question is concerned. You have fold equity with 10bb in a SNG where the average stacks are likely to be in the range of 10-15bb and the bubble is probably right around the corner.

Rhys Parslow · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:45 am Post subject:

i think i would shove here

LiamHooks · Full House Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

thanks for the advice guys, so as ever i made the right move and im being overly critical of myself as i usually am when im on a downswing, i guess its back to the grind

francois8 · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject:

I don't think you can fold, you certainly shouldn't call, so that leaves us with shove and hope for the best. If you're "flipping" you're actually a slight favorite. I'd expect the SB to make this same play with any pair in this spot, which means that there are 7 smaller pairs and 5 bigger pairs (unlikely he has other two 9's). On balance I'd say your shove has a + EV so shove and let him have the "hard" decision to call all in.

Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker