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JazzOne · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: 2nd type of poker

I have been playing hold 'em for about a year. I've studied all the books and played thousands of hands. However, I have never before played a single hand of any other poker variation (seriously, never, not even a 5-card home game). In fact, I have played nothing but NO LIMIT hold 'em. So, yesterday my curiosity finally got the better of me, and I played a stud freeroll. I was completely lost and confused by the betting limits.

So, I'm thinking about picking up a second form of poker. It seems to me that all the limit varieties are strikingly different from NLHE. So, should I start out by learning the subtleties of limit hold 'em? It seems obvious, but the reason I ask is that I am much more interested in 7 card. I just don't understand the point of all those small (limit) bets.

OpDS311 · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject:

Playing more limit hold 'em will help you with betting in limit, but I'm not sure it will help you with stud all that much. I'd suggest playing some play money stud, or doin a HORSE freeroll early Thur. and Fri. morning.

OpDS311 · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject:

Also...Try to find " Winning Seven Card Stud" by Ashley Adams.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

I'd say that starting with limit Hold 'em might be a good idea. That way you get to familiarize yourself with limit games in a more comfortable environment. You still have to approach it as a new game though, because there's a huge difference between NL and FL.

GuitarDean · Full House Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 169 Location: Canada

Pokit2s · Message Board Junkie Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 1261

I would look for "Small Stakes Holdem" by David Sklansky. It's a good Limit holdem book that will get you on the right track. It might take you a few months to actually get good at Limit Holdem so I might hold off on stud for a while if I were you. Don't rush through Limit holdem, take your time, and learn it just like you did NL. Don't move on to another game until you have your current games down pat.

byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

i actually suggest you start out by playing some Razz. this is a great game to learn because it teaches you how to play for the best low hand. many different games incorporate a low, such as omaha h/l and stud 8/b, as well as many other "home game" games that involve a low in the game. razz is also limit, so you get yourself familiar with the betting.

or if you really feel uncomfortable with stud type games, you might wanna try omaha. its really hold'em plus two more cards. only problem is you have to adjust your scale of winning hands, and know that drawing hands are favorites a lot of times over made hands. you'll see a lot more full houses and even quads. also you'll have to adjust to taking more bad beats...

Pokit2s · Message Board Junkie Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 1261

If you really want to learn all the games, I would suggest this order. NL Holdem (which you already know), Limit Holdem, 7-C Stud Hi, Pot Limit Omaha Hi, Razz, 7-C Stud Hi-Lo, and finally Omaha Hi-Lo.

Like byamoto said, it is important to learn Razz before any Hi-Lo games, but I feel that it is beneficial to learn all Hi games first.

Gonso · Three of a Kind Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 88

Limit Hold'em first, then 7 card stud.

I do agree that the high games should be learned first. But there's so many games now and they're all worth at least learning the basic rules of.

Also consider your area. I'm in Atlantic City and there's not really anything in terms of Razz or Triple Draw, for example.

FatStacks06 · Royal Flush Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 736

Pot Limit Omaha for sure... It's a wild game and you can really take advantage of folks at the lower levels who don't know the rules. I also suggest Razz, since people will usually go all the way to the end if they have a chance at making a half way decent hand. Patience pays off in both games. In PLO you are looking for nut flushes when the board isn't paired and full houses when it is paired. Seems simple, but you'd be surprised how many people bet their Queen high flushes or top two pair. In Razz you're looking for 3 starting cards below a 7 or an A/2/throw away card. Look for people betting out with any card higher than a J showing and target them.
There's rules and strategies for these games in SS and other books like Hellmuth's. Good luck!

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