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mathman1115 · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: Here's a situation

Ok, you are in the bigblind in a (very) low limit holdem (say 1/2 or under) game, which is full. Everyone folds to the button, who raises. The small blind reraises. YOu must now call two small bets to continue, or or cap of course, with the pot standing at 6 small bets. YOu are getting 3:1 odds (actually more since the button will likely call) to call.
What types of hands do you play here, and what types do you cap with??
I was in this situation the other day with A7o, and i folded. Was that too tight??

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

Absolutely not! Folding A-Jo isn't too tight in that spot.

dmoore1998 · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject:

If you're gonna call here you wanna call with hands that are likely not dominated. AJ and A7 are easily dominated by a better ace. I'd rather play some low suited connectors or mid-suited connectors than an A with a mid-kicker.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

Suited connectors aren't that valuable in this spot either. I think this is just a place to play tight and fold unless you have a really good hand.

bigwheell · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject:

I would pretty much fold all but the top few starting hands. I would make it 4 bets with AA, KK, AK, and possibly QQ if the raisers were IMO loose. otherwise I would usually fold.

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Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

It doesn't matter if he's easy to read, these situations don't come up that often, and it's not a spot where you want to get involved with an inferior hand. He's going to be sandwiched between a raiser and a re-raiser after the flop.

bigwheell · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject:

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bigwheell · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject:

Well that is my criteria for calling two bets cold, even from the big blind. If they both fold to me when they miss the flop, I just won a nice 12 dollar pot...

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Pokit2s · Message Board Junkie Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 1261

I reraise with AA, KK, QQ, AKs here. Unless the guy in the small blind is extremely loose and aggressive, then you can be a little more flexible. The A7o is no contest though. Fold every time.

gho · Straight Flush Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 391

So what if the two players are LAG? If both button and SB have raised and re-raised with any two cards, are you still folding? To answer the question, I think it also depends on the players your playing against...A7/AJ off may actually be the best hand in this case and folding might be incorrect.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

I think A-7 is still a bit too weak, but A-T+ is probably playable if they're LAG. A lot of it depends on their post flop play though. If they're good LAG players, being sandwiched between them is going to be really tough.

gho · Straight Flush Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 391

I agree, if they're aggressive post-flop laying down Ax is correct as you won't know where you stand most of the time. If they are weak-tight post-flop then calling with A8 or A9 is not so bad. In this case you can take the initiative by betting out on the flop. Actually, if your going to play the hand then you might be better off re-raising pre-flop and try to take control of the betting against the two LAGs (who are weak-tight post-flop). If one or both are still jamming pre and post flop then likely one or both have good hands.

In the end, it takes experience to play from the blinds especially against LAGs. You have to have a good feel for your opponents to play well. Playing a tighter strategy is probably best at the beginning.

bigwheell · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject:

I may be a little too rigid with my cold calling requirements, but I want to be the agressor in the hand, and I do not have enough information to push back at them if I call or cap it with an AJ. LAG players or not, I am too often dominated in that hand when I get involved at the point. I would rather lose my blind in that spot.

I will make it up later if they are both LAG's and playing weak cards agressively. I usually am pretty LAG at the table, but with a couple of maniac's acting before me all the time, I will tighten up drastically and try to win lots of small pots with my good hands and some aggressive bluffs back at them when the cards on the board does not seem to match their aggressiveness in the hand.

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