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dr sailboats · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: Playing a pair of 10's

Just had a quick situation I was wondering if I could get some advice on.

$.25/$.50 6 Man No Limit Hold Em Table

1st to act ($40) with Pocket 10's and I Raise to $1.75
2nd to act ($40) calls and the button ($35) calls, everyone else folds

Flop: Ah Kc Jd

With two callers, I'd assume my 10's are behind. Do I even make a continuation bet even though I'm pretty sure I'm beat or do I check it and hope to show it down? Thanks!

GoldenDomer9 · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: 10s

Maybe I'm too tight, but @ .25/.50 tables I probably just check fold that there since you're out of position. If your continuation bet was to be called, your opponent could still be on some sort of a draw, have 2 pair, flopped the str8, or simply A x and you're left guessing as to whether they'd fold on 4th St. I'd wait for a better spot, but that's just me.

byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

yea its a pretty tough situation since you had two callers, and you are first to act after the flop. if anything, i would check the flop and had everyone checked as well, i would have put a bet out on the turn to try and see where i was at. with that dangerous of a flop, its simply not worth it to lead out on the flop like that, unless you think they will fold a weak ace or a similar hand in that situation.

FatStacks06 · Royal Flush Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 736

I would check/fold on this flop. But pre-flop with TT, you should try to be a little more aggressive. UTG is one of the few times you can do the limp raise, I don't advocate doing it at all really except in situations where you have a small-medium PP and you will most likely have at least 1-2 callers if you raise. So if no one raises and you see the same flop, you've lost only 1 BB instead of 3.5. But if one of the LP callers raises instead to 3.5 BBs, you can now pop it up to about 12-14 BBs for them to see the flop, which will make your continuation bet on the flop have a lot more merit (if they call at all). By raising 3.5 BBs you conceal the strength of your hand, but it doesn't matter when you flop 4th pair in a multi way pot. Mix it up a little next time.

FatStacks06 · Royal Flush Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 736

I would check/fold on this flop. But pre-flop with TT, you should try to be a little more aggressive. UTG is one of the few times you can do the limp raise, I don't advocate doing it at all really except in situations where you have a small-medium PP and you will most likely have at least 1-2 callers if you raise. So if no one raises and you see the same flop, you've lost only 1 BB instead of 3.5. But if one of the LP callers raises instead to 3.5 BBs, you can now pop it up to about 12-14 BBs for them to see the flop, which will make your continuation bet on the flop have a lot more merit (if they call at all). By raising 3.5 BBs you conceal the strength of your hand, but it doesn't matter when you flop 4th pair in a multi way pot. Mix it up a little next time.

drcossack · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject:

So many double posts.

These boards need a serious fix...

RossHIde · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

u raised 4 1/2 x's the BB. U got 2 callers. What do you think the callers have. even if they are loose players there's way to many hands that have u beat.

AK, AQ, AJ may have reraised but maybe not. you could be, but less likely, up against AA, KK, QQ, JJ and they smooth called you.

What's interesting though is if your up against any hand like KQ, QJ, Q10, etc. A big enough bet representing an ace in your hand may get them to lay down there hand.

but i would say one of the 2 have a pair of that beats your 10 10.

Pokernome135 · Three of a Kind Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 86

Like others have said, there is very little chance that you have the best hand, and continuation betting probably won't force both of them to fold. With 10's I'd say check/fold, because the only hands that you have beat that would call a raise are smaller pocket pairs. Anyways, getting a free turn card would be great, because you could hit a set or complete a broadway straight.

Personally, I like limping with 10's (or smaller) in first position, because if you miss the flop (and there's a few over cards), you will be left in an uncomfortable position. Putting alot of money on such a vulerable hand, expecially out of position, just doesn't seem like a good idea to me, but to every man their own.

Just my 2 cents.

xX zorrito Xx · Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:56 am Post subject:

you check/fold this flop...

you are drawing to a queen ONLY! even if you hit your set someone with a queen will surely stack you and you're put in a place to make a decision...

Moshiach · Message Board Junkie Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 2279

The flop would be a lot harder if any one of those cards was replaced with a rag, then it's completely dependent on the type of players you're against.

Big Slick x13x · Forum Icon Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 4324 Location: ROK

Pokit2s · Message Board Junkie Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 1261

Some reads would surely help your decision here.

Mikelib · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:04 am Post subject:

I reckon the safest bet with two tens is to raise about 5x the big blind. My reasons for this is that you could win the blinds right there with out even seeing a flop, but if you do get a call and the flop comes down like it did you know you are definately beaten and it becomes an easy check/fold situation. This play has been veprofitable for me in the short time I have been playing for cash.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

mistaken69 · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: Re: 10s

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