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citytom · High Card Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Location: florida

WHY PLAYERS DO CHIP FLOURISHES AT THE POKER TABLE

Definition: Chip Flourishes (Chip Tricks), handling chips in a fancy manner.

Poker is fast becoming America's favorite form of entertainment. Hold 'em tournaments are broadcast daily on TV. You and I are able to peek into the pros hole cards, and we are able to see the way they handle their chips. Some don't flourish at all, but others, work with the chips in a manner that reveal their thousands of hours spent on the green felt. They riffle shuffle their chips. They delicately finger the chips...extracting one, turning it over, and replacing it. They bet their chips with a flair. The colorful flourishes include running a chip across the knuckles, spinning a chip on the table and making it return, and rolling out a stack of four chips so that a chip is gracefully placed between each finger. They impress us with their chip acrobatics. And it's second nature. They aren't even thinking about it.

There are several reasons why players do chip flourishes. Here are a few.

1. TABLE IMAGE: I've heard talk that players should project an image that they are a "madman" or "unsure of themselves"....when in reality...they are not. This does have advantages, but I just can't get myself to do it. When I sit down at a table I want everyone to know that I grew up with a deck of cards in my hand, that I'm a "player", and that I know what I'm doing at the table...all the time. Flourishes help me stand out and increase my ability to control the table.
I can opt to look like a poker veteran, and unleash my repetoire of chip handling techniques on those at my table. Or if I want to look like a beginner, I can simply choose not to flourish.

2. RELIEVE STRESS: Just as some people twiddle their thumbs, bounce their knee, or tap their fingers, flourishing can be a means to physically dissipate nervous energy. Poker can be a stressful game in several ways. One is the nervousness one feels at the beginning of a tournament. This is easily decreased by some chip shuffling. Poker is a sedentary game and there aren't many physical ways to "blow off" a bad beat or major chip loss. A player can get out of his seat and walk a few steps, he can verbalize, or pick up a drink. There's not much else to do. Golfers can walk off their frustration. Baseball players can fling their helmets and bats into the ground after striking out. One way to "let off steam" for a poker player, is to work the chips. Moving your fingers and handling the chips, is one physical means to lessen stress, and take your mind off the last hand.

3. INTIMIDATE OPPONENTS: I've seen beginners fold solid hands after being intimidated by players who perform a superior display of colorful chip twirls, rolls, flips, and other fancy fingering of chips. The psychological factor in poker is far more important than in other card games. If you look like you grew up playing poker, you will have your raises respected more. You will find opponents laying down hands because they think you have the winning hand. The confidence you display, and flourishes you exhibit, affects other people's decisions and play.

4. EARN RESPECT FROM DEALERS AND FLOORPERSONS: I don't look like a beginner, and I am more likely to be noticed and remembered. I'm looking to maximuze my comps and courtesies!
Sometimes a dealer may get "testy" with a tourist or one who is new to the game. I'm not put in that category.
Over the years, I've also seen a variety of borderline situations occur at the table, where the veteran player gets the better shake. My flourishing puts me in the"poker veteran" category.

5. STAY AWAKE: During long tournaments, keeping my fingers moving helps keep me awake and aware of what's going on. There are some boring stretches to poker, and flourishes help me stay alert.

6. FOCUS: Handling the chips keeps me focused on the game. My hands are physically on them, and I'm mentally attached to the cards at play. The purpose of the game is to gain chips, and there is no better way to remind me of this than to finger the chips.

7. HELPS TO WARD OFF CHEATS: Someone who flourishes his chips does not look like an easy mark. The flourisher is thought to be well versed in proper poker shuffling, cutting and dealing procedures. He is one who is more likely to be aware of card "mechanics", collusion, and other scams. I am less likely to be pegged "a sucker", and any cheat will think twice before trying to pull one on me.

8. OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO DO IT: Doing flourishes is like riding a bike...once you learn it, you learn it for life. I like to see others watching my moves, knowing that they would like to do what I'm doing. It gives me a sense of accomplishment. Buy an instructional video on Poker Chip Flourishes and practice along with it. Make sure you have them second nature before sitting down and gambling. If you have to concentrate on the flourishes, and take attention away from the cards at play, you'll be hurting your game.

9. THE PROS DO IT: No matter what sport or game, everybody wants to emulate the professionals. They are the stars, the successful. Do as the pros do!

10. IT'S COOL TO DO!

Tom Golabek plays the poker tables of South Florida. He has produced an instructional DVD on performing poker chip flourishes. It can be found at www.pokerchipsvideo.com

BOYNAMEDSUE · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:19 am Post subject:

I think chip tricks are dumb.

I think they distract you at the poker table.

I don't think they intimidate anybody. And if they do intimidate someone, well, you were probably gonna get his/her money anyway.

But most of all, I think they look ridiculous. When I see Antonio Esfandiari do 'The Butterfly' I think back to my Vanilla Ice haircut back in 7th grade, do a teetering scale motion with my 2 hands, and choose the Vanilla Ice haircut. I would rather wear my hair like Vanilla Ice at a table filled with pros I respect than attempt silly chip tricks, because I will look less like a fool.

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177

I can't do any of the really impressive chip tricks, but I compulsively shuffle chips whenever I'm at the table. It's something I do without even thinking about it; it's just my way of fidgiting. I don't care what others think of them - I'm not doing them for any reason, just because I tend to have far too much energy.

GripHoldOn · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject:

There's nothing wrong with NOT doing chip tricks, but I have nothing against players who would rather do them than sit still in a chair for seven hours or more.

spammy1234 · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject:

Poker gets boring at times in a live tournament, so you have to keep yourself occupied. Doing chip tricks is hardly intimidating, but they are fun to show off and show that you can handle the chips as well as the cards. I do them when I get bored, or when I am thinking. It is much tougher to sit still for 7 hours and call someone down then to be getting at least some motion from the body at the same time.

To make in to the big time in poker nowadays TV helps, so being able to show off to ESPN or the Travel Channel what you can do may help you get a bit more TV time next time and get yourself recognized a bit more the next time you go and play.

I have to disagree with you though BOYNAMEDSUE, I definitly prefer the chip tricks over my old Vanilla Ice haircut

BOYNAMEDSUE · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:

I must clarify something.

I don't consider the basic chip shuffle a chip trick. I don't shuffle, but I can see how it might settle your nerves a bit after taking a bad beat. So it serves a practical purpose.

It's the other stuff I find ridiculous.

Free Info · Flush Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 128

watch out, citytom is here to peddle his chip tricks DVD

also, i do chip tricks at the table, because i think it gives you more respect

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177

I think that it sometimes looks kind of silly, but only if the person doing the tricks is really full of himself. It doesn't make me respect the person more as a player, but it does look cool if they do it well, without being all "look at me" about it.

Zuchov · Royal Flush Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 646

I also do chip flourishes at the table... but just so that while everyone's watching my chip flourish hand, I can steal their chips with my other. Smile

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177

Sneaky, zuchov - I like it.

KGBlovesOreos · Moderator Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 5318 Location: VA

in poker you have to learn to sit out a bunch of meaningless hands instead of bluffing off your chips w/ them, so i keep myself occupied w/ tricks and it gives me something to do... also helps the table image a lot

goodtime · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject:

I love to do the chip shuffle, I also do the chip twirl as done by the magician on "The Nuts". Which was on a WSOP broadcast last year. It's not like I do it for fun or anything, it's just become a habit now. Right when I sit down at a table I start shuffling chips. I really don't think it intimidates anyone. At best it could distract people I guess.

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177

Uh-huh. "keep your eyes on the chips. You are getting sleepy... very very sleepy..."

theycallmeq4 · High Card Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 15

i think it gets to the point where what we do with our chips becomes second nature to us. whenever i'm sitting at a cash game or tourney, its what i do to help pass time while i'm not playing a hand. Now i don't have any advanced tricks and i end up shuffling most of the time, but it's just second nature now.

dirtydago · High Card Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 1

the only chip trick i do is called the "double-up"

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