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| Who is more delusional? |
| Mike Madasow |
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| Sean Sheikan |
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88% |
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HollowTippedBet
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Joined: 28 May 2006
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: Madasow saying hes better than Ivey? Is crack on sale? |
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| My friend told me about some televised poker tournament with Ivey and Madasow. It was on some strange network and I was wondering if anyone knew where I could see it again. It sounds great, with madasow and ivey at the same table. Thanks |
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OpDS311
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| MaTasow always says he is the best player their is, wether he actually believes it, or is just playing around as he does so much. Same with Sheikhan, they are smack talkers and they say they can beat anybody. The two of them are great players, and I do believe Matasow is one of the best. He seems to be having less blow-ups lately, which is clearly a sign of him getting better. Sheikhan is a new player to me, but with a semi-final finish in the NHUPC and an 11th place finish in the main event, I think they both deserve some bragging room. |
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HollowTippedBet
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Joined: 28 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Madasow is for sure one of the best but between him and ivey, Ivey wins no contest. Hes a better tournament player and cash game player, and if you ask any of the pros, I bet they would tell you the same thing. Also, I like your quotes on the bottom  |
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se7en10
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Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| MaTasow always says he is the best player their is, wether |
I'm gonna have to come "over the top" of you on your spelling correction. It's actually, "Matusow". And "their" should be "there". And "wether" should be "whether". I'm giving you extra credit for Sheikhan's name though.
I doubt Ivey or Matusow is better than the other.
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Jobe Gilchrist
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Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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Location: "the most commonly-uttered phrase by vampire bats is 'it's not as cool as it sounds'"
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| lol. A grammar reraise! So if you'd ignored it for one post, then corrected him in your next post, would it be a grammar check-raise? |
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OpDS311
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Location: Colbert Nation
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorrie. I took bitts and peeces of it from a posd I founded on eBay. Ive learnd mi leesson. |
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Lepoppet
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Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Matusow was going off on Ivey during one of the Circuit's broadcasts. Apparently Howard Lederer told Mike to forget about Ivey. The Professor told Mouth that Ivey was a mutant and had this uncanny ability to beat anyone, anygame, anytime, anywhere.
Mike then said that Ivey has a horseshoe embedded in his ass and hasnt' lost a pot in 5 years. It was a hilarious broadcast. |
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HollowTippedBet
High Card
Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 7
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| se7en10 wrote: |
| OpDS311 wrote: |
| MaTasow always says he is the best player their is, wether |
I'm gonna have to come "over the top" of you on your spelling correction. It's actually, "Matusow". And "their" should be "there". And "wether" should be "whether". I'm giving you extra credit for Sheikhan's name though.
I doubt Ivey or Matusow is better than the other.
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I guess you dont follow poker. Cause u obviously are way in over your head. I dont think that its even debatable who is better. Educate yourself before u look like a fool!!! |
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OpDS311
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Location: Colbert Nation
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Educate yourself in common courtesy before you look like even more of a fool. |
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krazybangs
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Joined: 21 Nov 2005
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Location: Beyond Tilt
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I think if anyone, Mike could get under Phil Ivey's skin and get him tilted, while Phils a better player... Mike has a technique to tilt. |
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se7en10
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Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| OpDS311 wrote: |
| Educate yourself in common courtesy before you look like even more of a fool. |
Thanks. You see, even though I corrected your spelling, you likely recognized two things: 1. It's the internet, so you take it with a grain of salt; and 2. I was attempting to be amusing and it wasn't a personal attack on you. (I should have used a smiley, I suppose.)
This guy (HollowTippedBet), with his three posts, stated his opinion about Ivey/Matusow. Then I stated mine. Then, he goes for blood.
HollowTippedBet, you have to pace yourself on these boards, and on the internet in general. Don't go right for the jugular, try taking a few light slashes or jabs first. If you overcommit your resources, it's actually you that ends up coming across as the fool.
If I were you, (God forbid), I might have said this:
"I see you've been around these forums for at least 140 posts, and it's obvious you know how to spell Madasow's name, but do you follow poker? I realize that consensus opinion and fanaticism aren't fact, but it is generally accepted that Ivey is better than most players, including Madasow. There are even facts to support this statement, such as tournament results and ring game statistics. Why is it you 'doubt' that either of them is better than the other?"
To which I might reply:
"Good question. As it happens, my opinion is that Ivey is the better player, though they are both very talented.
However, when it comes to rating them by results, if you don't have all the information on every game they've ever played, you can't really 'know' who is better, (beyond opinion or belief). Additionally, if you were to face them off against each other in 1,000 or even 10,000 games, it would probably come down to cards, since they are both so skilled. It might come down to which player simply had the slight edge over the other than given day."
And you might respond:
"You have your opinions and I have mine. I see some of your points, but of course, Ivey's my man."
And I might say:
"I hope you and Mr. Ivey will be very happy together. I'm glad we could intelligently debate this subject."
And you might say:
"Well, I'm not gay. I meant that I am a fan of his. However, I understand how you might get that out of what I said. Haha, that's funny."
And I might say:
"No problem. My apologies for my misconception."
And you might say:
"Oh. I'm sorry to hear you lost the baby."
...
*sigh* The phrase, "That's poker", is a lot like the phrase, "It's the internet".
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OpDS311
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Seven, I was talking to hollow, who basically said we are idiots for having an opinion on this matter.
HollowTippedBet wrote:
I guess you dont follow poker. Cause u obviously are way in over your head. I dont think that its even debatable who is better. Educate yourself before u look like a fool!!! |
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HollowTippedBet
High Card
Joined: 28 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| se7en10 wrote: |
| OpDS311 wrote: |
| Educate yourself in common courtesy before you look like even more of a fool. |
Thanks. You see, even though I corrected your spelling, you likely recognized two things: 1. It's the internet, so you take it with a grain of salt; and 2. I was attempting to be amusing and it wasn't a personal attack on you. (I should have used a smiley, I suppose.)
This guy (HollowTippedBet), with his three posts, stated his opinion about Ivey/Matusow. Then I stated mine. Then, he goes for blood.
HollowTippedBet, you have to pace yourself on these boards, and on the internet in general. Don't go right for the jugular, try taking a few light slashes or jabs first. If you overcommit your resources, it's actually you that ends up coming across as the fool.
If I were you, (God forbid), I might have said this:
"I see you've been around these forums for at least 140 posts, and it's obvious you know how to spell Madasow's name, but do you follow poker? I realize that consensus opinion and fanaticism aren't fact, but it is generally accepted that Ivey is better than most players, including Madasow. There are even facts to support this statement, such as tournament results and ring game statistics. Why is it you 'doubt' that either of them is better than the other?"
To which I might reply:
"Good question. As it happens, my opinion is that Ivey is the better player, though they are both very talented.
However, when it comes to rating them by results, if you don't have all the information on every game they've ever played, you can't really 'know' who is better, (beyond opinion or belief). Additionally, if you were to face them off against each other in 1,000 or even 10,000 games, it would probably come down to cards, since they are both so skilled. It might come down to which player simply had the slight edge over the other than given day."
And you might respond:
"You have your opinions and I have mine. I see some of your points, but of course, Ivey's my man."
And I might say:
"I hope you and Mr. Ivey will be very happy together. I'm glad we could intelligently debate this subject."
And you might say:
"Well, I'm not gay. I meant that I am a fan of his. However, I understand how you might get that out of what I said. Haha, that's funny."
And I might say:
"No problem. My apologies for my misconception."
And you might say:
"Oh. I'm sorry to hear you lost the baby."
...
*sigh* The phrase, "That's poker", is a lot like the phrase, "It's the internet".
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I think we all know who the loser is here. You obviously have too much time on your hands, and u are all acting like a bunch of beotches. LOL, I was going for the jugular? Wtf? I dont go on a physics website and act like I can disprove Einstien, you shouldnt go on a poker website and pretend like you know what your talking about. Telling me that Madasow is better than Ivey is the equivilant of saying that Albert Einstien created his theroys by sexually molesting an owl. |
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krazybangs
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 1373
Location: Beyond Tilt
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: Grip or Jaconda |
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Can we lock this before it gets messier?
Dancing lock please? |
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se7en10
Four of a Kind
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| OpDS311 wrote: |
| Seven, I was talking to hollow, who basically said we are idiots for having an opinion on this matter. |
I know.
In my first paragraph I was actually thanking you for commenting on his discourteous post. (My apologies if it came off as sarcastic -- it was not meant that way.) I was also making a comparison of his reaction and yours by complimenting you on the fact that you didn't take offense at my correcting your spelling. As opposed to his reaction to my seeming to have a different opinion than his
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