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Blue Devil 14
High Card
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 5
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 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject: How bad am I? |
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How bad did I play this? Should I have even called the pre-flop raise.
FullTiltPoker Game #173616972: Table Lexington - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha - 13:33:36 ET - 2005/08/03
Seat 1: fhaugen ($21.10)
Seat 2: poker_brat7 ($12.80), is sitting out
Seat 4: Blue Devil 14 ($18.90)
Seat 6: KiraKener ($18.65)
Seat 7: JMM_LA ($3.70)
Seat 8: rivermania ($7.70)
fhaugen posts the small blind of $0.05
Blue Devil 14 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blue Devil 14 [Th Qd 9c Kd]
KiraKener folds
JMM_LA calls $0.10
rivermania calls $0.10
fhaugen raises to $0.50
Blue Devil 14 calls $0.40
JMM_LA folds
rivermania calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [8s 3d Ks]
fhaugen bets $1.60
BOSSHOG sits down
Blue Devil 14 calls $1.60
BOSSHOG stands up
rivermania folds
BOSSHOG sits down
*** TURN *** [8s 3d Ks] [9h]
BOSSHOG adds $3
fhaugen bets $2.40
Blue Devil 14 raises to $4.80
fhaugen calls $2.40
*** RIVER *** [8s 3d Ks 9h] [3c]
fhaugen bets $14.20, and is all in
Blue Devil 14 calls $12, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $2.20 returned to fhaugen
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fhaugen shows [As Tc Kc Ah] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Blue Devil 14 mucks
fhaugen wins the pot ($36.50) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Blue Devil 14 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38.40 | Rake $1.90
Board: [8s 3d Ks 9h 3c]
Seat 1: fhaugen (small blind) showed [As Tc Kc Ah] and won ($36.50) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 2: poker_brat7 is sitting out
Seat 4: Blue Devil 14 (big blind) mucked [Th Qd 9c Kd] - two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6: KiraKener didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: JMM_LA folded before the Flop
Seat 8: rivermania (button) folded on the Flop |
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GTKID
Four of a Kind
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 305
Location: Waxahachie, Tx
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Um, your both played this hand awful. Pushing dry aces on the turn in omaha, eww. You going crazy because you had 2 pair. In omaha 2 pair is like bottom pair in holdem. It just doesn't win very often. You should be looking for the nuts, or at least have a strong draw to them. I woudn't really have played this hand to begin with. But I definitely wouldn't have gotten so excited when I made 2 pair. If your pushing two pair in omaha your in for a rough ride. And your call on the river is horrendous, you honestly cant beat any reasonable hand. Sorry to "bash" you but this was very poorly played. |
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Blue Devil 14
High Card
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I figured I played it pretty bad. They had been playing alot of hands and raising alot. I know I shouldn't have called the first raise. It just got me into alot of trouble. It's not that I was really excited about my 2 pair, it was that I didn't think they were beat. I'll admit it, the call on the river was freaking stupid. |
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GripHoldOn
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 2096
Location: Boston, MA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I think your call before the flop was fine, but your call after the flop was not. Although he shouldn't have been betting his hand on the flop, you CERTAINLY shouldn't have been calling. All you had was top pair, and you had no redraw possibilities. Get rid of the hand on the flop. |
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GTKID
Four of a Kind
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 305
Location: Waxahachie, Tx
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Blue Devil 14 wrote: |
| I figured I played it pretty bad. They had been playing alot of hands and raising alot. I know I shouldn't have called the first raise. It just got me into alot of trouble. It's not that I was really excited about my 2 pair, it was that I didn't think they were beat. I'll admit it, the call on the river was freaking stupid. |
Its ok to see flops in omaha with almost anything, I believe Ted Forrest did for awhile, unless it was a trip hand like JJJ4, because the flop is when your hand really becomes defined. You should definitely have dumped it on the flop. The river call just looked like desperation. You shoudl think it out and determine if you can really beat anything. The other played the hand bad too, but its better to be betting and raising with weak holdings then calling. |
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Blue Devil 14
High Card
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 5
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the replies guys. |
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raxip
Pair
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 47
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I know where Blue Devil is coming from. This fhaugen guy frequently raises and re-raises regardless of what he/she has just to be aggressive and win pots through brute force. Have seen this person win big and lose big. |
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tcwhat
Two Pair
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 56
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| GTKID wrote: |
Its ok to see flops in omaha with almost anything, I believe Ted Forrest did for awhile, unless it was a trip hand like JJJ4, because the flop is when your hand really becomes defined. |
I do not think this is true. I think you should have requirements on your hands as playing 4 unsuited cards definetly hurts instead of being double-suited.
This becomes especially true in Omaha Hi/Lo, but still is true here at least for me. |
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KGBlovesOreos
Moderator
Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 5318
Location: VA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: omaha... |
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two pair blows in omaha... some straight/flush draw is always out there, and people tend to have it in 9 handed games...
BTW, IF YOU HAVE THE NUT FLUSH, AND YOUVE BEEN CALLING BIG BETS THE WHOLE WAY, THEN THE BOARD PAIRS ON THE RIVER, FOLD!!! LOL, JUST A PIECE OF ADVICE |
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RamoneDastone
High Card
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 11
Location: California
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Calling with this hand pre flop is not bad, but you must be aware of what type of flop you are looking for. Did you call with this hand looking to make top pair? Probably not. With the 9 10 Q K you are looking for some kind of straight draw, or flush draw. Since the flop didn't come with those requirements, you should let the LAP have the small pot and move on. He appears to be overplaying his hands, so wait for a better spot when your hand is stronger and then punish him. |
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capt midnight
Full House
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 179
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| ted did play everyhand for a few months, and actually came up on top.....i dont suggest you try it |
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claw1980
Pair
Joined: 23 Jun 2005
Posts: 49
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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all due respect to those above, i don't think you played this hand terribly until the turn.
i like your call preflop, and i can even defend the call on the flop, depending on the type of player and your read.
Now your play gets pretty bad. On the turn if you think your hand is good, you have to push it, don't just min raise him, reallly put him to the test. i would have raised the pot there.. once you make the mistake on turn, you have to be willing to dump your hand on river. Hes semi bluffing in actuality, but there are many hands that call your min raise on turn that improved on river.
just my 2 cents. |
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JetsFan28
Royal Flush
Joined: 19 Oct 2005
Posts: 799
Location: NY
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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ur pretty bad  |
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