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drizzler · Pair Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 45

This hand happened in the middle stages of a Razz tournament, not quite to the money bubble yet. I've got about T1500, which is a below average stack size.

I am on the button with [46]5. One EP player with [xx]A has completed to T150 and I am the only caller. The other board cards are K-K-9-7-3. Pot is T475 (7 players, T25 ante).

Fourth street I've got [46]52 and he's got [xx]A2. He checks, I bet T150, he calls. Pot is T775.

Fifth street I've got [46]52A (a made 6542A) and he's got [xx]A25. He checks, I bet T300, he calls. Pot is T1375.

Sixth street I've got [46]52A2 and he's got [xx]A253. Now he bets T300. I fold.

Here's my reasoning. If he has a 6 (for a made 6532A) or a 4 (for a wheel) in the hole, then I'm dead to a 3 and there are only two left in the deck. There are three 6s and three 4s left, so his chances of having one already or drawing one on the river are pretty good. I figured if I called his bet I would be pot committed and would have to call another T300 on the river regardless of my cards. But even if I hit my miracle 3, I could be drawing for just half the pot.

It hurt, dropping T625 and leaving me very short stacked with about T875, but it seemed like a no brainer fold. Was it a mistake?

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

It's possible that he had a 7 underneath and that you had the advantage. However, I didn't play with him and you did so you are better suited to say what kind of hands he was likely to have underneath.

gho · Straight Flush Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 391

I don't think he had a 4. If he had the nuts he would let you continue firing. A 6 is possible but he's likely trying to bet you out of the pot since a scare card came for you. He probably knows you either have a 4 or 6 (probably not both though) in the hole so the deuce on 6th street didn't help you. I guess it comes down to your read on your opponent. Is he a tricky player who plays any two cards, solid player who bets when he has it etc. If he's a tricky player then you probably should commit yourself to the hand and make a raise or fold it (which you did).

drizzler · Pair Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 45

I didn't have any previous notes on this guy, so all I had to go on was the 15-20 minutes we were at the same table. He folded a couple of times when he had a low door card, so he wasn't just automatically trying to push the action or play a lot of hands. He always completed the bet instead of just calling the bring-in, but I never saw him raise, not even during the play of a hand. He was auto-mucking the losers, but the few times I saw him reveal his hand he had good hole cards.

Now that I think about it, he certainly could have had a 7- or even 8-low and was trying to force me out on his scary board. That would most likely mean that one of his board cards paired him up, which would explain why he was check-calling instead of betting into me.

I'm still not sure about calling the last two bets though. I would be putting my tournament life on the line hoping he didn't have a 6 or 4 in the hole.

THEMYSTICAL · High Card Joined: 09 May 2006 Posts: 2

Driz I think this is much too tight. You have a premium hand and are at the part of the tourney where you need to chip up. He may have you beat but I think its as likely or more so that he has a 7, 8, or even worse (like pairs) in the hole. You are leaving yourself a very small stack to work with by folding here. To fold at this point I would need to be about %80 sure I'm beat and with a made 65 I would only be that sure if I knew my opponent extremely well and he knew me well. His bet seems like a probe to me asking do you really have a hand?

RossHIde · Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:18 am Post subject:

probably had A3 in the hole and his 3 paired him up and he figured his only chance to win was to fire at the pot givin that his board looked so scary. If hes got a wheel why try to push you out now, when you been bettin all along.

tough to fold a 6 low, but if your on the money bubble and want to make sure you at least cash, maybe its a smart play.

duelindalton · Pair Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Tampa

It looks like to me he saw you paired and threw a shot out there, hopin you had 1 brick in hole. It wouldnt surprise me if he had two pair. I agree with the past post, you were the aggressor why would he jump on that if he landed the nut and chase you out, unless the player is inexperienced they would more likely milk you. But on the other hand for you to fold a hand like that you must have had a lot of doubt, if Im dreading the outcome I dont call. So it was your call to make and as long as your comfortable with it, then it was the right one.

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