Online Poker Room
Our Poker Players
Texas Hold Em Download
How To Play Poker
Full Tilt Poker
Real Money Poker Games
News & Promotions
Poker Store
Online Poker Affiliates
Full Tilt Poker
Online Poker Forum at Full Tilt Poker
  FAQFAQ   SearchSearch    RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile  Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages  Log inLog in 

Online Poker Forum - Should I Have Pushed

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Online Poker Forum Home -> No Limit/Pot Limit Strategy Discussion
Author Message
Hubba_Rocks
Straight


Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Should I Have Pushed Reply with quote

Okay, I'm in a very loose 1/2 game, and have been playing exceptionally tight, only coming into pots with premium hands.

I'm on the big blind with about $85, 3 limpers including the SB come in behind me. I look down to find AJs. I raise to $7 and two old guys who've been in almost every pot call, while the SB folds.

The Flop comes K 7 3, rainbow, so I lead out for $15. Both old guys call, so I assume one or both has middle or bottom pair, but no king, as they would've raised with any half decent King.

The Turn comes a 10, and I bet $30. Old guy #1 calls, while the other folds.

The River is a 6, and now my main focus is whether old guy #1 is pot commited enough to call my final $35 . I figure he is, it's already a $120 pot, so I check, and he checks.

He flips over A10os, and takes the pot. I muttered "Nice Flop" as I was little annoyed with what happened.

Was there any other better way to play this on my part? I dunno how the guy calls me on the flop, but any advice is appreciated.
Back to top
dkgojackets
Straight Flush


Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 429

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have dropped the hand after he called your flop bet. You tried the bluff once, it didnt work, and now you still have nothing.
Back to top
sensaike
High Card


Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was playing today, just now. 5/10 blinds. I raise pre-flop to 50, guy out of possition calls me everbody else folds. Pot is 130. flop come 6-4-7 rainbow. He checks. I raise all in with A8s, 100 more. The guy calls and flip Q9s. Wtf, who call with this ****.

Turns come and is a Q, river is a 6 and he wins the hand. Wtf!!!

Who plays this. how, what, why, what that hell! man.......
is pissis me off seeing myself lose like this. when the guys was a complete idiot! calling with a Q9 who does this!?

Man that bastard probably dint even know how to spell poker like Phil said.

btw, this was the guys first hand at the table.
Back to top
AllInDrawinDead
Royal Flush


Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 599
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could see him calling before the flop all in just hoping to get lucky against a better hand because he feels like gambling it up. Once you see the flop you can't like Q9 and you know it's not the best hand and the flop was your best chance to get lucky and you completely missed. Absolutely abysmal.
Back to top
matt2411
Royal Flush


Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 559

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your 1st words describing them should have made you drastically alter your playing style. "I'm in a very loose 1/2 game,"

when people are very loose, you need to check and call more, and bluff a lot less, if ever.

reason being is every bet needs to be a value bet. you have to expect them to call, with uber calling stations who will call just about any bet on the flop, it wont narrow the field, if it wont narrow the field, continuation bets are useless.

know your reason for betting.... if they wont fold, you're just building a pot, so dont bet if you dont have it Smile
Back to top
Hubba_Rocks
Straight


Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

matt2411 wrote:
your 1st words describing them should have made you drastically alter your playing style. "I'm in a very loose 1/2 game,"

when people are very loose, you need to check and call more, and bluff a lot less, if ever.

reason being is every bet needs to be a value bet. you have to expect them to call, with uber calling stations who will call just about any bet on the flop, it wont narrow the field, if it wont narrow the field, continuation bets are useless.

know your reason for betting.... if they wont fold, you're just building a pot, so dont bet if you dont have it Smile


It could have been a bit of impatience on my part. I had literally only came into 2 hands in about 20-25, the first being pocket Kings-which got no action; the second being pocket Queens where I got 4 callers to a $17 re-raise preflop, then the flop came A-K-x. I dunno, maybe just a bad day.
Back to top
Guest






PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuation beds after you've taken the lead pre-flop are most effective against just one opponent. Any time you have 2 or more opponents, you're odds of being able to purchase the pot with a continuation bet drops.

In addition, against players who like to call bets and will see you to the turn or river, you're better off just checking and see if you can hit the flop. If you don't and he bets, you're able to get away from the hand without much damage by keeping the pot low.

TTG2k
Back to top
junkbutton
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 4049
Location: Gutterrock, NY

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It blows my mind how people get so mad when they're playing people who obviously have no idea what they're doing. Take some mental notes (or if you're online, take some real ones). Remember what they do... Then next time, don't be bluffing! These are the people you want to be playing with! Unless you're plaing above what your bankroll allows, you will be able to get all that back and more. Unless of course you're just going to spend that time steaming and tilting and b!tching... Then you'll never make it back.

Calling all-ins with nothing = good.
Back to top
sensaike
High Card


Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont mind playing with them. They're the easer of fish to catch.

is just that wow those guys really need to improve!!!

I made way more of him later on in the game. And if i remember correcly he had to re-load about 5 time the masximun before he got the messege and left the table.
Back to top
dmoore1998
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 20 Jan 2006
Posts: 1154
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

sensaike wrote:
I was playing today, just now. 5/10 blinds. I raise pre-flop to 50, guy out of possition calls me everbody else folds. Pot is 130. flop come 6-4-7 rainbow. He checks. I raise all in with A8s, 100 more. The guy calls and flip Q9s. Wtf, who call with this ****.

Turns come and is a Q, river is a 6 and he wins the hand. Wtf!!!

Who plays this. how, what, why, what that hell! man.......
is pissis me off seeing myself lose like this. when the guys was a complete idiot! calling with a Q9 who does this!?

Man that bastard probably dint even know how to spell poker like Phil said.

btw, this was the guys first hand at the table.


What site were you playing on that allows people to buy in for only 15x the big blind in a NL game?
Back to top
Gonso
Three of a Kind


Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 88

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice catch dmoore, 15BB buy-in doesn't work, but he may have been short-stacked at the time. It was his opponent who was playing his first hand.

Anyway, this hand has problems.

You bet 5x the BB with A8s, which oddly was a third of your chips. You flop a gutshot straight draw with two overs, he checks, and you go all in. If the hand he held is as you said, it was a terrible, awful call - but so was the all-in.

Any hand that was good enough to call with, and many that aren't, have you in a bad way.

You mentioned it was his first hand - why not give the guy a little credit? After all, he could have checked a set to you! He probably saw you as a desperate shortstack who couldn't let go of a pot.
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Online Poker Forum Home -> No Limit/Pot Limit Strategy Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group