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jongreenway · Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:58 am Post subject: Call or Fold? 2 Pair on River

Don't ask why I limped with 83, the guy in BB was tight and there were 4 people in the pot, so I decided to see the flop. I knew the ace on the turn was a bad card, but I knew amos23 was tilting a little so I didn't konw what to do. His big bets along with bbdole still being in the pot scared me enough to fold on the river. I probably would have called if bbdole wasn't in the pot... although I thought he may of been drawing since he just called both of our bets along the way. What would you have done?

Full Tilt Poker Game #600194631: Table Newburg (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:54:13 ET - 2006/04/28
Seat 1: bbdole ($162.50)
Seat 2: Fast Eddy 1 ($149.05)
Seat 3: amos23 ($124.70)
Seat 4: jboss21 ($228.90), is sitting out
Seat 5: trankem ($126.80)
Seat 6: jongreenway ($138.55)
jongreenway posts the small blind of $1
bbdole posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jongreenway [3h 8c]
Fast Eddy 1 folds
amos23 calls $2
trankem calls $2
jongreenway calls $1
amos23: cmon dude
bbdole has 15 seconds left to act
bbdole checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 8h 3s]
jongreenway bets $8
bbdole calls $8
amos23 calls $8
trankem calls $8
*** TURN *** [6h 8h 3s] [Ad]
jongreenway checks
bbdole checks
trankem: needed J or club
amos23 bets $22
trankem folds
jongreenway calls $22
bbdole calls $22
*** RIVER *** [6h 8h 3s Ad] [Js]
jongreenway checks
bbdole has 15 seconds left to act
bbdole checks
amos23 bets $92.70, and is all in
jongreenway: a 8?
jongreenway has 15 seconds left to act
jboss21 has returned
jongreenway folds
bbdole calls $92.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
amos23 shows [9d Tc] (Ace Jack high)
bbdole shows [Ac 8d] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
bbdole wins the pot ($288.40) with two pair, Aces and Eights
amos23 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $291.40 | Rake $3
Board: [6h 8h 3s Ad Js]
Seat 1: bbdole (big blind) showed [Ac 8d] and won ($288.40) with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 2: Fast Eddy 1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: amos23 showed [9d Tc] and lost with Ace Jack high
Seat 4: jboss21 is sitting out
Seat 5: trankem (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: jongreenway (small blind) folded on the River

nalej · High Card Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 20

that's a lot to call with 2 low pairs. a set would beat you, two higher pairs would beat you just like if you called in that hand. I'm not sure, I guess for me it would depend on how I felt that night.

bigplaya21212 · High Card Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 9

I think that folding here is an easy move. Why did u play this hand in the first place?

Crazy-N-Lazy · High Card Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 1

I'd want to punch you in the head if I was amos23 for you calling out a hand with a person behind you left to act.

mathman1115 · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:42 am Post subject:

thats the problem with a hand like 8/3. Even if you hit the flop, its still hard to figure out what to do.
Not saying you did anything wrong, but you set yourself up for a difficult decision. I try to avoid playing those types of hands even in multiway pots because i know sometimes at some point i will have a tough decision if i flop a pair of 8s or two pair.

caribstv · Pair Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Location: New Jersey

only mistake was playing trash in the first place..

supfool123 · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject:

caribstv Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:58 am Post subject:

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only mistake was playing trash in the first place..

thank you bill nye the science guy. i don't think i would've called in that case but everyone plays diff.

preflop +'s:
1) no one showed any aggression
2) $1 with $7 in the pot

preflop -'s:
1) your hand is 8c 3h
2) you are 1st to act after flop

post flop +'s:
1) betting out not checking
2) bet was post size

post flop -'s:
1) everyone called

turn +'s:
1) realizing that ace was a bad card

turn -'s:
1) checking, i believe that if you were willing to call $22 you should've bet it out yourself

river +'s:
1) seeing that there was still one player left to act after you so if you called that wouldn't stop the betting.

2) folding

river -'s:
1) none

all in all i believe you played this hand very good. you got in when the pot was giving you 7:1 and even though you hit a good flop you were willing to let it go when you noticed that things started to go bad. nh

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