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jongreenway · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: Hand with AA, fold or call?

Here's the hand. What do you do on the river? 5 gives him the straight. I figured, I'll call because it's unlikely he would have gone that far into the hand with a 5, unless he chased a gut shot earlier and hit it. I thought he may of missed his flush. Was that logical or was I just thinking that because I didn't want to fold the nuts I flopped?

Full Tilt Poker Game #582679174: $200 + $10 Heads Up Sit & Go (3818944), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:25:49 ET - 2006/04/21
Seat 1: jongreenway (1,550)
Seat 2: GiveMeUrChips (1,450)
GiveMeUrChips posts the small blind of 10
jongreenway posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jongreenway [Ac Ah]
GiveMeUrChips calls 10
jongreenway raises to 60
GiveMeUrChips calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4c Td]
jongreenway bets 120
GiveMeUrChips calls 120
*** TURN *** [Ad 4c Td] [3h]
jongreenway bets 360
GiveMeUrChips calls 360
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4c Td 3h] [2s]
jongreenway checks
GiveMeUrChips bets 910, and is all in
jongreenway calls 910
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GiveMeUrChips shows [4h 3c] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
jongreenway shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
jongreenway wins the pot (2,900) with three of a kind, Aces
GiveMeUrChips stands up
jongreenway stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,900 | Rake 0
Board: [Ad 4c Td 3h 2s]
Seat 1: jongreenway (big blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won (2,900) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: GiveMeUrChips (small blind) showed [4h 3c] and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes

FatStacks06 · Royal Flush Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 736

Thank your lucky stars that guys is playing a $200 HU SNG. That's free money. He could have had anything, its tough to put someone on a hand in HU since they will most likely see the flop with anything and keep calling you down if they hit any part of it, top/middle/bottom. You had to call there since the only thing that could beat you was any hand that held a 5. I would have put him on a missed draw, but he thought his crappy 2 pair was best with you betting your Ace. Search for this guy and play with him often.

mathman1115 · Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject:

WEll, there is no way you can fold at that point, especially heads up. If it was a 9 player, there is more of a chance of a 5 out there, but even then i probably still couldn't fold it.
The fact he only called the flop and turn bet would lead me to believe that he was trying to slowplay you, maybe with a lower set or two pair, which was the case by the turn.
I would have bet the river there to protect from being bluffed out, although your hand was strong enough to prevent that anyway.

JokerStars · Royal Flush Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 720

To be fair to the other guy, I'd imagine he had you on AK, and was convinced he had the best hand on the turn. It's difficult to put someone on a set of Aces after that flop.

Tom OConnor · Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:04 am Post subject:

Call. I think the tell in that betting was your relentless bet bet bet up until the river where the straight appears and you checked. I think the best play (if he did have the 5) for him was to place a small value bet. Going all in with the straight would be far too obvious and he would think immediately you'd pick up on this and fold. It really was an ugly situation for the both of you but like I said, the tell here was his all-in raise at the end. He knew you didn't have the straight and he wanted to take the pot then and there.

mathew · Guest

I think your call ws fine. Based on the information presented I believe your apponent thought he was slow rolling you with his two pair. His call/call/call then all in he felt you had an ace but missed you kicker.

jack-actionhero · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject:

his all-in move was an obvious attempt to buy the pot. If he really had the straight (which he didn't but wanted to represent), he would have given you a bet to call to extract more money. As it was, he just made a bad bet and left himself with no more hands to play because of it.

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: Re:

mcmoney28 · Guest

I would of automatically went all-in after the turn to eliminate that option. If he is then chasing the gut shot he will put his tourney life on the line then not after he sucked therought he river.

nalej · High Card Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 20

I agree with mcmoney, should have gone all in on turn and put the doubt on him.

Hubba_Rocks · Straight Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 101

I don't see how you could have laid down top set. The only hand I see him having a 5 in is a 5-6s, him calling your flop bet as part of a delayed bluff, finding an up and down straight draw on the turn, then getting lucky; it's happened to me before, but it's unlikely.

A busted flush is the most logical, and even if your read was wrong, it's pretty hard to read a book if it's written by a retard.

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