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lenny_bruce
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Uh, even if there were bots...and they did work...
That doesn't mean they KNOW which cards are coming or have anyway of cheating during a game. It'd just be the program making the decisions during a hand, instead of a player.
That doesn't make them OK to use or anything. I just thought I'd clarify. |
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rockycatt
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Joined: 02 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| lenny_bruce wrote: |
Uh, even if there were bots...and they did work...
That doesn't mean they KNOW which cards are coming or have anyway of cheating during a game. It'd just be the program making the decisions during a hand, instead of a player.
That doesn't make them OK to use or anything. I just thought I'd clarify. |
len i agree with your core annalisis ,however this and the rest of the poker sites are set up for only human player triggering of plays
theses guys are setting up bot farms so they claim 
id like to read a comment from a tech that works for full tilt on this |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 7910
Location: Isle of Tilt
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I'm a mole. I contacted the ICM bot company about buying it using a player transfer.
Hi xxxxxx,
Thank you for visiting the site and for your interest in ICM-Bot. We limit the amount of FTP transfers we can take each week, just to keep any money/transferring activity at a minimal, so not to arouse any questioning by full tilt. We will be able to accept more within about 2 days. We will e-mail you immediately when we will be accepting transfers again, and give you further instructions if you are interested. We usually use different accounts that aren't associated with the bot in order to keep things safe.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Take care,
Michael
www.icmbot.com |
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htichy78
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Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: me as well !! |
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i do too cause , coda sworn i was being cheated the other night on ftp
i had pocket aces and he/she had ace-three offsuit and he/she catches a flush,next hand i get BIG SLICK the same guy K-Q os and catch quad Qs....same night later on me and the same guy ends up at the same table once again in a tournament he goes all-in with a pair of 8s and i called with
pockets aces and he catches trips, i had triple his stack in chips,so the very next hand i catch pocket Ks i raise he re-raise,so i just call flop comes 10-9os
hes first to act he goes all-in and call his cards where 6-7 clubs,next cards 7
the river card was a 8 and this fool win ....i was thinking the whole while ...WTF....i didnt no who to contact about this and im getting opportunity to express myself to someone lol
anyways gl and tc !!!   |
you really think a bot would be profitable if they made plays like these?
nice work boynamedsue, surely they can see which accounts link from which IP address etc or that exact amount being transferred they should close all those accounts immediately. i dont know, there has to be a way to sniff them out. |
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rockycatt
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Joined: 02 Jan 2007
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Location: WE WANT RAKE BACK
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
I'm a mole. I contacted the ICM bot company about buying it using a player transfer.
Hi xxxxxx,
Thank you for visiting the site and for your interest in ICM-Bot. We limit the amount of FTP transfers we can take each week, just to keep any money/transferring activity at a minimal, so not to arouse any questioning by full tilt. We will be able to accept more within about 2 days. We will e-mail you immediately when we will be accepting transfers again, and give you further instructions if you are interested. We usually use different accounts that aren't associated with the bot in order to keep things safe.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Take care,
Michael
www.icmbot.com |
good show for going in with the ball lets se what happens when they
e mail you, full tilt shoud give you a slush fund to bust them and there forum  |
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spike420211
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Joined: 25 Apr 2007
Posts: 1424
Location: on your La-Z-Boy, raiding your fridge, playing with your remote
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
I'm a mole. I contacted the ICM bot company about buying it using a player transfer.
Hi xxxxxx,
Thank you for visiting the site and for your interest in ICM-Bot. We limit the amount of FTP transfers we can take each week, just to keep any money/transferring activity at a minimal, so not to arouse any questioning by full tilt. We will be able to accept more within about 2 days. We will e-mail you immediately when we will be accepting transfers again, and give you further instructions if you are interested. We usually use different accounts that aren't associated with the bot in order to keep things safe.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Take care,
Michael
www.icmbot.com |
nhwellplayed |
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spike420211
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Rocky,
some general info about bots:
unless you're doing LHE @ the micros, these bots are probably beatable.
i rilly don't think you're gonna see NLHE bots in cash games [even multi-tabling] @ less than 50.00 max.
as for super-turbo sng's, OTOH, the profit is made off action junkies.
A BOT COULD DO WELL THERE. hell, i might do well there, if i was patient enuf.
i'm fortunate that way, creating a stud/stud-8/razz bot requires more than lookup tables... try add-on PCI cards w/ multiple dsp's to run real time simulations, as well as interface w/ the CPU. It's doable,
they make these PCI cards [for real-world engineering purposes], but how much stud action is out there anywayz?
Stars uses CAPTHCAS 2 detect bots [i know, they used one on me once in a dimer turny when i pre-action-folded about 10-12 crap hands in a row.
to be honest, except for draw[which can be painfully sloooow], i've never
never been a fan of turbo sng's. I prefer to be a nit. And I am currently
out-performing NASDAQ, NYSE, Nikkei, pretty much every1 except Durrr
and Leatherass.
Rocky, the best current-day bots are probably at the level of the average
.05/.10 weekend player [and I'm probably being nice]. I also think it's ethically wrong 2 use them, some people are just that lazy or sleazy and don't care.
I can assure you Rocky, it will be 10-15+ years b4 u see a bot @
final table in the sunday million. That bot will probably be able to negotiate itself a good chop, but unless it can get to the top 3 or 4 left,
it will be pawned by lowly humans. They're a long way from mastering
info processing from HUD's, properly manipulating bet sizes, etc, for NLHE. |
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Jim Cushman
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Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Re: me as well !! |
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| whooper1970 wrote: |
i do too cause , coda sworn i was being cheated the other night on ftp
i had pocket aces and he/she had ace-three offsuit and he/she catches a flush,next hand i get BIG SLICK the same guy K-Q os and catch quad Qs....same night later on me and the same guy ends up at the same table once again in a tournament he goes all-in with a pair of 8s and i called with
pockets aces and he catches trips, i had triple his stack in chips,so the very next hand i catch pocket Ks i raise he re-raise,so i just call flop comes 10-9os
hes first to act he goes all-in and call his cards where 6-7 clubs,next cards 7
the river card was a 8 and this fool win ....i was thinking the whole while ...WTF....i didnt no who to contact about this and im getting opportunity to express myself to someone lol
anyways gl and tc !!! |
What the hell does that have to do with BOTS? LOL |
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rockycatt
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Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Posts: 3141
Location: WE WANT RAKE BACK
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Rocky,
some general info about bots:
unless you're doing LHE @ the micros, these bots are probably beatable.
i rilly don't think you're gonna see NLHE bots in cash games [even multi-tabling] @ less than 50.00 max.
as for super-turbo sng's, OTOH, the profit is made off action junkies.
A BOT COULD DO WELL THERE. hell, i might do well there, if i was patient enuf.
i'm fortunate that way, creating a stud/stud-8/razz bot requires more than lookup tables... try add-on PCI cards w/ multiple dsp's to run real time simulations, as well as interface w/ the CPU. It's doable,
they make these PCI cards [for real-world engineering purposes], but how much stud action is out there anywayz?
Stars uses CAPTHCAS 2 detect bots [i know, they used one on me once in a dimer turny when i pre-action-folded about 10-12 crap hands in a row.
to be honest, except for draw[which can be painfully sloooow], i've never
never been a fan of turbo sng's. I prefer to be a nit. And I am currently
out-performing NASDAQ, NYSE, Nikkei, pretty much every1 except Durrr
and Leatherass.
Rocky, the best current-day bots are probably at the level of the average
.05/.10 weekend player [and I'm probably being nice]. I also think it's ethically wrong 2 use them, some people are just that lazy or sleazy and don't care.
I can assure you Rocky, it will be 10-15+ years b4 u see a bot @
final table in the sunday million. That bot will probably be able to negotiate itself a good chop, but unless it can get to the top 3 or 4 left,
it will be pawned by lowly humans. They're a long way from mastering
info processing from HUD's, properly manipulating bet sizes, etc, for NLHE. |
whoa spike im impressed at your thourough knoweledge [sry bout spelling]
exenent responce ty vm
your pal rc |
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