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comin4you · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Small edges as a short stack

Scenario: You just sat down at a .05/.1 6-player NLH table with $5. Third or fourth hand in you're on the button w/ A Diamond

8

, two players limp as do you, SB completes, BB makes it 0.10 more, everyone calls.
Flop: 3 Diamond

4

2

BB ($10 behind) leads for $1, P1 ($6.50) calls, P2 folds... what is your most +EV play here? I believe folding is out of the question here, so your choices are to flat call or make a raise. If you raise, how much? If you call, what do you do when the turn is a blank?
The pot's at $3, I think raising all-in for $4.60 (putting the pot at $7.60 and $3.60 more to call) would be my play. If you're up against one pair that's not AA you're a slight favorite, a made straight (with 5-6) you're 1.7:1 underdog, and about a 2:1 dog against a set. I think in the smaller limits you'll see a lot more people playing the straight draws here (even with just the ace) and another playing some big cards which gives you good fold equity on the raise.
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

Otto410 · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject:

9 outs for the nut flush.
3 outs for the wheel straight -- but you're playing the wrong end of the straight because someone may have a 6, so let's call it 1 1/2 outs.
3 outs to hit an A with mid-range kicker, but that gives a 5 the wheel.
3 out to hit an 8 that may be good.

I would lower my expectations of the top pair A and top pair 8 to 3 outs because the 8s may not be good and an A may make someone else a wheel or have a better kicker than an 8.

9 + 3 + 1 1/2 = 13 1/2 possible outs with two cards to come.
People playing draws or naked high cards that I can force out?

I'm all in.

mathman1115 · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

Actually this is the perfect reason why you should not buy in as a short stack. With a full stack here, you could reraise all in and possibly win the pot by everyone folding. But with a shorter stack, you are prone to getting called since its "not that much more." Having a short stack can effect how you play hands like draws.

_Xceptional · Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

LOL Mathman, he's posing a hypothetical question. Not, whether it's advantageous to buy in for $5 into a 100NL game, obviously it's not the best thing to do.

So, to answer your question, yes, I'm getting all my chips in the middle here. I have 9 diamonds, and 3 5's that I'll consider live outs. I'll go ahead and say my ace might be dead here, more often than not. (This may not be the case though) But I'm still looking to get it all in and draw to the flush.

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mathman1115 · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject:

Its a .05/.10 NL table so a $5 buyin is half the max. Read the post carefully before laughing at me.

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