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OpDS311 · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: Did i do something wrong?

* Dont have hand history because table exited out before i had the chance to copy it.

40/80 blinds

1st player folds
second player limps (14,000 chips to start hand)
3rd player folds
4th player limps
I raise to 240 with pocket 9's (11,000 to start hand)
6th player calls (6,000 chips to start hand)
7th player folds
SB folds
BB folds
second player calls
4th player folds

pot:840

*note...both players that called have been calling a lot.

flop: 4c 10d 7c

i figure unless someone has a ten....i got the best hand...so i put in a tester bet

1st limper checks...I bet 350...2nd limper folds...1st limper calls

pot: 1540

turn: 7h

he checks...i bet 1,000 (i'm content with picking up the pot at this point)
he calls...and i'm confused.

pot: 3,540

River: 3s

he bets 1,200..and i pay him off knowing i am beat. He flips over Q-7 offsuit for trips sevens.

help please.

Strasse · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject:

There are a lot of things I would have done differently about this hand. First, the preflop raise was lacking. Once the first player limps, you should raise enough to try and get the player behind you to fold. You want to play this pot heads up. That being said, I would probably raise to 4.5 times the big blind.

Once the flop hits, I like your bet, but I probably would have bet a little more. There is 10.5 big blinds in there right now, with 3 from each player to the flop, plus the big and small blind. You only bet about 4.5 big blinds, which really represents weakness, telling other players they should call with any part of the flop. I would have bet about 7 big blinds in this spot, maybe even a little more, as I'm pretty confident I have the best hand.

Once the turn hits, I would strongly consider checking, as the ten beats you, but now middle pair beats you as well, as it would have tripped up. The only hand you are really beating at this point that he could have is a flush draw, and maybe bottom pair, but I would be pretty confident in ruling that out. I would probably check at this point, as betting builds the pot, leaving you to break the cardinal rule, "Only play big pots with big hands." I would hardly classify your pocket 9s as a big hand at this point.

Once the river hits and he bets out, you know that the river either helped him, he was trapping, or he missed his draw and bet out. Let's analyze each situation. The river was a 3. The only way I could see this as having helped him is if he held 5,6 and hit a straight. This is possible, but highly unlikely. I can't imagine him limping from UTG + 1 with 5,6, much less calling a raise with it. Even if he did, you didn't give him pot odds on the turn to chase, especially since the board paired. While 5,6 is possible, I'm going to classify that situation as unlikely. That being said, we are fairly sure the river didn't help him. Next option is that he was trapping you. He could have hit a set, highly likely, and been trapping you the whole time, letting you bet for him. On the river, he's afraid you might check, and wants to milk more chips out of you. He could also have the 7, which he did, and have tripped on the turn, and trapped from there. This is likely, since you didn't bet enough on the flop. I doubt he would have trapped that much on top pair, so we can probably rule out a pair of tens. The third option is that he missed his draw and is trying to steal the pot from you. The only draw that I could imagine is 5,6(which would have hit) 8,9 or a flush draw. 8,9 is possible, but again I don't see him investing that much on a straight draw when there is a flush draw out there. This brings us to the flush draw. On the turn, you bet 1000 into a 1500 pot. This gives him 2.5 to 1 on his money to try and hit his flush. His flush draw has 9 outs, though he has to figure the 7 of diamonds wont help him as it will likely give you a full house, if you don't already have one. This gives him 8 outs, or about 16% to catch his card. He could also have two overs, though this is unlikely considering he didn't raise preflop. Even so, it gives him 14 outs, or about 28% to catch his card. This means he needs 2.5 to 1 on his money, which he would be getting if he had two overs. He had the pot odds to chase his flush and overs to the river if he didn't already put you on a boat, but there is also no way of him knowing if his overs are live. While this scenario is possible, even likely, I just don't think that is what he has based on the way he played it. Even if he did have the flush draw, he bet 1200 into a 3500 pot on the river, which really doesn't seem like a steal to me. It seems like he was trapping all along, and begging for a call on the river. Based on the way you played the hand, I think you can feel confident laying it down on the river. Next time, however, it would be helpful if you didn't post his holdings, as my analysis could be easily biased.

OpDS311 · Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject:

ok...thanks a bunch..i post these 20% to vent...80% to get criticism on how i could play better

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