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jlmink76549
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Joined: 04 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keekdapolak wrote:
its riggedd. everytime that 2 players each go all in nd there cards are shown then 50% of the time the hand is decided on the last card.


the_allins_sho_ho_often_big_hands_are_put_up_against_big_hands

full_tilt_didnt_kno_they_r_going_to_go_allin_so_the_manufactured_bs_
action_enciting_flop_is_right_there_for_us_to_study
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sloshedzeus
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Posts: 1297
Location: The birthplace of NASCAR

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: its not rigged however i have a inquirey Reply with quote

jlmink76549 wrote:
rockycatt wrote:
this is a serious question about a often not serious quandryof posts

ok here it is , do any think that the RNG cycles has a a period of time built into it that step up the the diffculty of play / or lower it

or in other words have loose times and tight times all be it random

but grouped in a sequence as so a hour might be loose dealing or
next hour be tight dealt hands

were the player is not getting the nuts
in the poket and is going to the river to complete there hand

or in another term is there any arcatectcher built into it


seriously posted RC



YES____I_kno_xactly_ho_they_fool_stat_tracker

i_cant_tell_u_ho_many_times_that_my_AA_is_on_BB_or_button_and_everyone_folds_b4_i_bet

after_5_times_of_that_i_could_bet_my_life_that_the_next_AA_busts

according_to_stat_tracker_ill_only_bust_1_in_6_aces_seems_reasonable?????lol...

i_cant_tell_u_ho_many_times_ill_get_runner_runner_huge_hands_in_situations_that/_dont_matter....

after_3_times_of_that,_ill_flop_somethin_big_that_gets_busted

according_to_stat_tracker,_i_raked_3_out_of_4_big_hands_so_y_the_
complaint????


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jlmink76549
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Joined: 04 Sep 2008
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IM_DONE_AT_FULL_RIGGED_POKER_
THE_LO_BLIND_TABLES_ARE_RIGGED!!!

NY1_THAT_DOESNT_LIKE_TO_BE_STOLEN_FROM_SHOULD_JOIN_ME!!!!

MY_AA_JUST_GOT_BUSTED_BY_LO_PP_AGAIN!!!!

THIS_PLACE_IS_SO_RIGGED_ITS_A_JOKE!!!

ASIDE_FROM_ALL_THE_OTHER_BS_IVE_SEEN_AT_THIS_OBVIOUSLY_.
RIGGED_SITE!!!

IN_THE_LAST_2_DAYS_MY_AA_HAS_BUSTED_3_TIMES_IN_A_RO_BY
POT_COMMITTED_HIGH_PP

THE_CHANCES_OF__AA_GETTING_BUSTED_BY_JJ,LADIES,_OR_KK
IS_1_IN_36!!!!!!!!!

THE_ODDS_OF_THIS_HAPPENNING_3_TIMES_IN_A_RO_IS_OVER_
1_IN_40,000_POCKET_ACES_SEEN

YOU_CROOKS_FOOL_STAT_tRACKER_____
AFTER/_ALL_THIS_BS_ILL_GET_AA_ON_BB_OR_SB_AND_EVERY1_FOLDS
TO_ME_5_OUT_OF_6_TIMES

HENCE_I_RAKE_IN_5_OUT_OF_6_POTS_HOLDING_AA

THATS_HO_THESE_CROOKS_FOOL_STAT_TRACKER

THEY_R_CROOK_EVERY_KEEP_AN_EYE_OUT_FOR_THESE_SCUM!!!!!!!

IM_OFF_OF_THIS_SITE_AS_SOON_THESE_CROOKS_STEAL_THE_REST_
OF_MY_MONEY!!!!!

IT_DOESN'T_MATTER_HO_I_PLAY___

IVE_FLOPPEd_THE_NUTS_STR8_AND_TRIPS_TODAY_AND_THEY_BUSTED_AFTER_MY_OPPONENT_POT_COMMITTED_HIMSELF

TEXAS_RIGGEM_ON_FULL_RIGGED_POKER_IS_A_TRAVESTY_

THESE_PPL_SHOULD_BE_LOCKED_UP_4_LIFE!!!!gREEDY_SCUM_SUCKER!!

ITS_NOT_A_VARIATION_IN_HANDS_SEEN_HEN_IT_HAPPENS_EVRY_DAY!!!!

FULL_RIGGED_POKER_IS_A_JOKE!!!!!!!

THE_LO_TABLES_R_RIGGED!!!!!!BIG_TIME_NO_DOUBT
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MarkGreb
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlmink76549 wrote:



IM_OFF_OF_THIS_SITE_AS_SOON_THESE_CROOKS_STEAL_THE_REST_
OF_MY_MONEY!!!!!



THIS_IS_GOLD
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sixandfour
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Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 550
Location: Far from home

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: so_rigged_its_a_joke Reply with quote

jlmink76549 wrote:
2_OUTERS_ON_THE_RIVER_AND_AA/KK_GETTING_BUSTED_5_TIMES_IN_A_RO_
ISNT_FROM_VARIATIONS_IN_TOO_MANY
HANDS_SEEN_HEN_IT_HAPPENS_EVERY_OTHER_DAY!

AFTER_ALL_THIS_BULL_THEY_FIND_A_AY_TO_FOOL_STAT_TRACKER!!!!

i_CANT_TELL_YOU_HO_MANY_TIMES_IVE_GOTTEN_AA_ON_BUTTON_OR_BIG_
BLIND_AND_EVERY1_FOLDS----

AFTER_THIS_HAPPENS_5_TIMES_ILL_FINALLY_GET_SOME_ACTION_
AND_OULD_BET_MY_LIFE_THAT_THE_HAND_GETS_BUSTED

CROOKS._NO_DOUBT_IN_MY_MIND!!!!!!_

ANYONE_ELSE_SEE_THE_SAME_IMPROBABLE_RUNS_DAY_IN_AND_DAY_OUT???

IT_ISNT_FROM_VARIATIONS_IN_TOO_MANY
HANDS_SEEN_HEN_IT_HAPPENS_EVERY_OTHER_DAY!

I_CAN_IMAGINE_THE_BIGGER_TABLES_ARENT_AS_RIGGED_




Space bar broke when you threw the keyboard across the room, eh?
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basketball2424
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Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Location: The new, New York

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a crazy thread huh? I have to admit, I catch some crazy bad beats on FTP, more than on the other online poker site I play on. But I am up more money on FTP than on the other, that is why I stay.

I like the site, people and games on FTP. But as others have said, I wish there was a legit gaming commishion that could actually monitor everything. If you guys knew how to make an engine and then write the code to make poker software, which I somewhat understand as Ive taken many computer science/computer programming classes in college, you would understand its not hard to manipulate any code. There are literally millions of lines of code, especially for a program like poker, and if you wrote 2-3 lines that could change things, it really could have a big influence over the course of playing so many hands.

Im not saying the site is rigged at all, what Im saying is any site that does not have a legit gaming commission COULD be tampered with even in a minute way to change things.
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IABoomer
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not difficult to manipulate the code to deal setup hands. The difficulty comes in doing it in such a way that

a.) it increases the rake enough to be profitable enough to justify the risk

b.) it doesn't create a statistical aberration that players who datamine would be able to find

That task is significantly more difficult. Considering the lack of proof based on sizable samples, it's reasonable to say that the game is not, in fact, rigged.
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sixandfour
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basketball, I think you're a logical person, so I am not trying to rip you on this... but what is it that makes you think the Kahnawake Gaming Commission is not a "legit" gaming commission? It's a bunch of ignorant whiners in this thread trying to discredit them, and often with little more justification than they are "a bunch of featherheads". Pretty horrible that to this day we still carry prejudices against groups that never did any harm to us. To this day, we still treat Native Americans and African Americans like dirt, but we have no ill will toward Japanese or German people, who did more harm to us in 4 years than anyone else ever did. Pretty ignorant IMO.
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HighKey
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sixandfour wrote:
but what is it that makes you think the Kahnawake Gaming Commission is not a "legit" gaming commission?


Who was behind the cheating at Ultimate Bet?
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tilting4dummies
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: it doesn't matter Reply with quote

It doesn't matter how well you play your hand, tilt rewards donkeys, that's how they stay in business.
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CoinFlipKing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: GETTING SCAMMED IN A HAND Reply with quote

well ive played online for about three years. And i have realized im a victim of a scam no major wins online but 40k in live ternys what am i doing wrong!!!!!!! Always in with the best hand just to get sucked out when it counts the most.. SCAMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean suck outs. I WOULD PREFFER TO GET IN WITH THE WORST HAND 14% VRS 85% ALWAYS LOOSE TO THE 14% ON FULL TILT
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BBCOACH44
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe online poker isn't for you. Looks like live play is your strength, stick with it..... Idea
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MarkGreb
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh
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IABoomer
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: GETTING SCAMMED IN A HAND Reply with quote

CoinFlipKing wrote:
well ive played online for about three years. And i have realized im a victim of a scam no major wins online but 40k in live ternys what am i doing wrong!!!!!!! Always in with the best hand just to get sucked out when it counts the most.. SCAMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean suck outs. I WOULD PREFFER TO GET IN WITH THE WORST HAND 14% VRS 85% ALWAYS LOOSE TO THE 14% ON FULL TILT


Apparently you're not a CoinFlipKing if you can't even win the 85/15 hands. Go ahead and try getting it in as a huge underdog. If you're right, and the site is a scam to help the bad players, you'll be loaded and playing Ivey HU4ROLLZ in no time.
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beanpot
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2 cents.. If we are ever going to get the dolts in the House and Senate out of our lives we have to act like we want them out of our lives!! The worst words one can hear is "I am from the Government and I'm here to help you". Take your lumps, it aint all in the programming.. 'Live Free or Die' To those outside the states or some who are in the states, that is the logo on every license plate in the State of New Hampshire.. And we mean it!! Join the Poker Alliance and help in the fight, for once be part of the solution and not the problem..

'The' Beanpot
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