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Dierwolf2000
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: need a stats expert Reply with quote

now i don't believe this site or any other is rigged, but i notice a large majority of the time when i flop a set or trips in O8 there's a flush draw on the board. what are the odds of this?
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Dashir
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cappelletti gives the following rough estimates of percentage of winning high hands with between 4 and ten players seeing the flop (computer generated):
    straights: 24-27%
    flushes: 18-22%
    full house: 20-36% (which sounds really high to me)

He says, "In real life, flushes seem to win slightly more often then 20% of the time, perhaps because some hands that might win with a full house fold before the showdown." Straights and flushes win almost half the hands.

That of course, doesn't take into account your holdings. Just random deals.

Edit - just realized I didn't actually answer your question... but shouldn't two of one suit happen about 60% of the time? (1/4 + 1/2*3/4).
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crapshot1
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2:1 on flop with 2 cards to come
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Dierwolf2000
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

been a while, but thanks guys. both of your math seems logical, and paying attention to my own hands seen does seem to bear it out,
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nimbus
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: need a stats expert Reply with quote

Dierwolf2000 wrote:
now i don't believe this site or any other is rigged, but i notice a large majority of the time when i flop a set or trips in O8 there's a flush draw on the board. what are the odds of this?


I take this to mean exactly 2 of the 3 cards are the same suit.

The easiest way to figure this is to break down the flops.

Flop all 3 different suits is 1014/2550 ~ 40%
Flop all same suit is 132/2550 ~ 5%
Therefore a board with 2 of the same suit is ~ 55%

Note that these numbers are independent of your hole cards.
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Dierwolf2000
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again, been a while, but thank you, that too seems logical. i am not a "math player" though i am increasingly paying attention to these sorts of draw ratios.
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