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cubbies760
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 Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Flat calling the Turn w/ garbage |
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This is kind of Poker Storyish, but I'll post it here since it may prompt some discussion....and this section needs a boost, anyhow.
This guy flat calls the turn with absolutely nothing (OK, a pair of threes), w/o any draws, and then checks behind OTR.
Any thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker Game #7780040663: $10 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go (59163378), Table 1 - 15/30 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 11:35:17 ET - 2008/08/24
Seat 1: cubbies760 (1,465)
Seat 2: tulinher (1,535)
tulinher posts the small blind of 15
cubbies760 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [2d 7h Ah Ts]
tulinher raises to 60
cubbies760 calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Td Qc 9d]
cubbies760 checks
tulinher checks
*** TURN *** [Td Qc 9d] [Jd]
cubbies760 bets 60
tulinher calls 60
*** RIVER *** [Td Qc 9d Jd] [5d]
cubbies760 checks
tulinher checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cubbies760 shows [2d 7h Ah Ts] a pair of Tens, for high
tulinher mucks
cubbies760 wins the pot (240) with a pair of Tens
cubbies760: hmmm
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board: [Td Qc 9d Jd 5d]
Seat 1: cubbies760 (big blind) showed [2d 7h Ah Ts] and won (240) with HI: a pair of Tens
Seat 2: tulinher (small blind) mucked [3h 3c 2s 7d] - HI: a pair of Threes |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Reraise PF, it's a big hand HU and plays both ways. Pot flop.
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cubbies760
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Zophar wrote: |
Reraise PF, it's a big hand HU and plays both ways. Pot flop.
imo |
One other thought, this guy doesn't fold much, so that's why I didn't want to bet that flop.
I agree to re-raise PF.
Am I potting the flop so that he can fold his low hand that missed? Let's assume I pot the flop, and he calls. The turn is a horrific card for me, and most likely a great card for the villian. What's my play OTT? |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm betting the turn as I would if I made the flush vs. most opponents that smooth call the flop, unless they are just incredibly LAPfish. But, I really think this plays out differently if you RR pre, lead post vs. a large % of their range. I don't think you see a turn often unless they have a real piece as the bets are quite a bit larger. I don't understand their turn call, likely misclick. I'd like to say your bet looked like a blocker and he intended on betting the river, but he didn't, so probably misclick or just hideously bad. |
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Gorfis
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm betting the turn as I would if I made the flush vs. most opponents that smooth call the flop, unless they are just incredibly LAPfish. But, I really think this plays out differently if you RR pre, lead post vs. a large % of their range. I don't think you see a turn often unless they have a real piece as the bets are quite a bit larger. I don't understand their turn call, likely misclick. I'd like to say your bet looked like a blocker and he intended on betting the river, but he didn't, so probably misclick or just hideously bad.  |
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Gorfis
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Just got lucky i guess  |
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