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Last Man Danci · Two Pair Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 59

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($10.24)
UTG ($10.55)
MP ($4.06)
CO ($10.46)
Hero ($14.22)
SB ($4.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4

, 4

.
UTG raises to $0.2, MP calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.15.

Flop: ($1.02) J

, 4

, 8

(5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.6, MP calls $0.60, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.2, BB folds, UTG calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60.

Turn: ($4.62) 2

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $3, UTG folds, MP calls $2.66 (All-In).

River: ($10.28) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $9.94

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8176 Location: Sweden

Raise to like $2.5 or a bit more on the flop. Other than that this is totally standard.

Last Man Danci · Two Pair Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 59

thanks again Riddim Smile

the reason for raising to $2.5 would be giving myself better value for the hand? or to deny the odds for any possible draws? or bit of both?

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8176 Location: Sweden

Just to build as big of a pot as possible without making a huge raise that folds out too many hands. When they have worse made hands you have all 3 streets to get value, but when they have draws they'll usually just fold the river if they miss so you only have two streets. In this case, making it $2.5 even means that it's easy to get all-in vs. UTG on the turn if they both call the flop raise, which is great if he's somewhat likely to call a turn shove with a draw.

fletch_smf · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8176 Location: Sweden

Yeah, it'd still be a super standard call unless villain was crazy loose from UTG.

fletch_smf · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject:

Meaning if you couldn't guarantee he would fold the flop with complete air?

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8176 Location: Sweden

No, meaning he'd have air too often when we flopped a set and therefore wouldn't pay us off often enough.

fletch_smf · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

So if I'm folding low PP in position to a 4BB raise I'm playing too tight? My thinking has been that it's better value to get in as cheap as possible, with as many players as possible, but I can see how it would still work seeing the flop at a higher price. We're just increasing our variance, yeah?

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8176 Location: Sweden

If you're playing full ring, routinely making folds like that is a really big mistake. Sets make so much money at FR. I mean there's a ton of profitable set mining spots at 6max too, but ranges are just tighter in general at FR, making you more likely to get paid when you hit. A lot of times you'll actually get paid more when the pot is raised and HU than unraised/multiway. People won't be as scared of big hands in a HU pot and it being raised means it's easier to get all-in.

fletch_smf · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject:

Thank you.

PokerJessO · Straight Flush Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 414

Your min-raise on the flop is real bad. If either player has a flush draw, or even JT, you are giving them incredible drawing odds. Put in a 3/4 pot or pot-sized bet, and you'll be denying drawing odds and building the pot if either player has a jack.

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