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PBS-S
Two Pair


Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Forced into hand on BB, flopped TP - line check Reply with quote

No reads - first hand

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $23.70
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $24.85
UTG+1: $15.90
MP: $26.25
CO: $12.90
BTN: $9.10

Pre-Flop: 4 T dealt to hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.85) T 8 9 (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.50, UTG folds, CO calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($1.85) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

Results: $5.85 Pot ($0.25 Rake)

Oh by the way, if you spot anything wrong with hand history please tell me. I had to doctor it because the converter kept screwing it up.
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet the turn. You probably have the best hand and you are vulnerable to overcards and perhaps a draw.

I don't lilke your c/c on the river. If you are willing to call a pot sized bet on the river after the King falls, i'd just be more inclined to bet 2/3 of the pot and then fold to a raise. You may get called by a hand that beats you, but losing $1.25 is better than losing $2, and who knows you may even get called by a worse hand.
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Riddim
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Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is fine. The river call is somewhat close I guess, since so many of the draws include a K or a better T, but I probably play it the same since we chop with so many tens now. If you're going to put more money in on the river I think checking and calling is definitely better than betting. The former lets him bluff with busted draws, while the latter just folds out worse and get called by better/chops.

There's merit to betting the turn as well and I'd probably do that more often than not, but I think it's fairly close. The 9 just hits a lot of the pair+draw hands we were ahead of and there aren't a ton of worse hands that will call a turn bet. Plus this flop just smashes a lot of limping ranges right in the face to begin with.
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PBS-S
Two Pair


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input Mathman and Riddim. Below are the results.

Results: $5.85 Pot ($0.25 Rake)
Hero mucked 4Spade TDiamond (two pair, Tens and Nines) and LOST (-$2.75 NET)
CO showed QHeart JHeart (a straight, King high) and LOST (-$2.75 NET)

It was something I didn't expect to see really.

(By the way, I don't know why it says he lost)
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