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Honest_Rob
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: 50 NL A2s OTB (line check) |
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UTG - 38/5/2.5(34)
BB - 22/19/2.5(2181)
UTG is just dumb.
BB seems like a pretty good player.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: 2+2 Forums)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($125.95)
Hero ($50)
SB ($102.50)
BB ($52)
UTG ($32.20)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 2 , A.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB checks.
Flop: ($2.25) Q , 3 , 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.50.
Turn: ($4.25) 5 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.5, MP folds, Hero raises to $5, BB raises to $16.5, UTG folds, Hero raises to $49 (All-In) |
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mathman1115
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| Looks good to me. Hopefully BB didn't get the 26 or 67 special. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I raise pre a lot, unless MP is really likely to call again, and fold the flop as played. PF you can isolate UTG and play a HU pot in position fairly frequently, which is great. On the flop your implied odds probably aren't that great, your immediate odds definitely aren't and none of your outs are completely clean.
On the turn I definitely don't blame you for getting it in but I think there's a definite chance you shouldn't have. It just seems unlikely that he has anything you beat but 55 in his range. |
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StevieWard
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I'm a bit confused here....surely this is pretty standard and AI move is only option? I'm 100% happy gettng it in here with 2nd nuts?  |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| StevieWard wrote: |
| I'm a bit confused here....surely this is pretty standard and AI move is only option? I'm 100% happy gettng it in here with 2nd nuts? |
3rd, and what do we beat in BB's range except for 55 once he takes this line? I guess Q5 is a possibility too if he chose to first just call the flop and then go nuts on the turn when he spiked his 5. I'd probably get it in too just because people have a tendency to do spazzy stuff, but against a villain like this I'm not even sure if it's good, let alone something to be happy about. |
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nilgiri
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I think he could take this line with 35/45, and maybe 4s6s/2s6s/As4s/As6s as well. And sometimes people do this with some other AsXs.
Definitely not happy about it, though. |
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Riddim
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| I think a lot of the weaker of those hands fold the flop most of the time. Raising turn with a flush draw counts as spazzy here as far as I'm concerned. After looking through the hand again 55 doesn't make much sense either though, so when he does have worse in his range he's always getting a bit out of line one way or another. |
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mathman1115
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| I think a lot of the weaker of those hands fold the flop most of the time. Raising turn with a flush draw counts as spazzy here as far as I'm concerned. After looking through the hand again 55 doesn't make much sense either though, so when he does have worse in his range he's always getting a bit out of line one way or another. |
Not really. The flop bet is less than 25% of pot and by the time it gets to the BB he's getting over 7 to 1 for a lousy BB.
I think he can be put on a little wider range here since he got the free flop, and i'd definitely chase a gutshot or a 2 outer set with these implied odds. Like i said though, i'd be most afraid of a 26 or a 67 big blind special. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, really. Except for 76 none of his draws are to the nuts and he's OOP. Implied odds just aren't very big because not only is it unlikely that someone has a big hand, but when he does hit on the turn there's a very significant chance he'll either be beat anyway or have someone make a flush when a diamond hits the river. Going for a non-nut gutshot is marginal at best and going for a set is just bad. |
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