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leemundy
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 Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: First ever rolled up hand....how'd I do? |
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PokerStars Game #19134670145: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/07/27 - 03:48:26 (ET)
Table 'Numidia III' 8-max
Seat 1: 1MDP ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 3: leemundy ($33 in chips)
Seat 4: CR00K ($114.75 in chips)
Seat 5: hellogeeman ($80 in chips)
Seat 6: billvan ($94.75 in chips)
Seat 7: dartxman ($46.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Nestor ($120 in chips)
1MDP: posts the ante $0.25
Skum has timed out while disconnected
Skum: is sitting out
leemundy: posts the ante $0.25
CR00K: posts the ante $0.25
hellogeeman: posts the ante $0.25
billvan: posts the ante $0.25
dartxman: posts the ante $0.25
Nestor: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to 1MDP [5h]
Dealt to leemundy [3h 3c 3d]
Dealt to CR00K [2h]
Dealt to hellogeeman [5s]
Dealt to billvan [Kd]
Dealt to dartxman [8c]
Dealt to Nestor [Ah]
CR00K: brings in for $1
hellogeeman: folds
billvan: folds
dartxman: calls $1
Nestor: calls $1
1MDP: raises $1 to $2
leemundy: calls $2
CR00K: calls $1
dartxman: calls $1
Nestor: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to 1MDP [5h] [Ts]
Dealt to leemundy [3h 3c 3d] [Jh]
Dealt to CR00K [2h] [7d]
Dealt to dartxman [8c] [Qh]
Dealt to Nestor [Ah] [Ks]
Nestor: checks
1MDP: checks
leemundy: bets $2
CR00K: raises $2 to $4
hellogeeman is sitting out
dartxman: folds
Nestor: folds
1MDP: calls $4
leemundy: raises $2 to $6
CR00K: calls $2
1MDP: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to 1MDP [5h Ts] [8h]
Dealt to leemundy [3h 3c 3d Jh] [2s]
Dealt to CR00K [2h 7d] [Jd]
CR00K: checks
1MDP: checks
leemundy: bets $4
CR00K: calls $4
1MDP: calls $3.50 and is all-in
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to 1MDP [5h Ts 8h] [4s]
Dealt to leemundy [3h 3c 3d Jh 2s] [As]
Dealt to CR00K [2h 7d Jd] [9d]
leemundy: bets $4
CR00K: folds
Uncalled bet ($4) returned to leemundy
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to leemundy [3h 3c 3d Jh 2s As] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
leemundy: shows [3h 3c 3d Jh 2s As 8s] (HI: three of a kind, Threes)
leemundy collected $0.25 from side pot
1MDP: mucks hand
billvan is disconnected
leemundy collected $39.25 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $41.25 Main pot $39.25. Side pot $0.25. | Rake $1.75
Seat 1: 1MDP mucked [4h 5d 5h Ts 8h 4s 6d]
Seat 3: leemundy showed [3h 3c 3d Jh 2s As 8s] and won ($39.50) with HI: three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: CR00K folded on the 6th Street
Seat 5: hellogeeman folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: billvan folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dartxman folded on the 4th Street
Seat 8: Nestor folded on the 4th Street |
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Strasse
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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| I don't like your 3rd street play, as I try to jam as much as possible as early as possible with trips in stud8, because of the fact that you are not going to get a low. I want to force out as many hands as possible to give myself a better chance to scoop. |
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leemundy
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I thought it might give my hand away if i did so, that's why I waited till 4th street. I see what you're saying though, you want to decrease the amount of low hands in the pot by raising on 3rd street. I guess I was lucky though, because I thought for surely "1MDP" hit his low.  |
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whyucallin
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Joined: 18 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| exactly the opposite, i think. you need to keep as many players IN the pot as possible or you're most likely gonna end up splitting antes with someone that does make their low hand. & the thing about rolled up 3s is that the likelyhood of seeing a wheel or ANY low str8 is not high 'cause remember even for a 7 hi str8 you NEED a 3. any rolled up trips should be slow played in hi lo in my opinion. raise the bring in, but don't go crazy after that & with rolled up 3s raising the bring in will give a lot of your opponenets the impression that you have a very good low draw. just my take on this. |
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mathman1115
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Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| whyucallin wrote: |
| exactly the opposite, i think. you need to keep as many players IN the pot as possible or you're most likely gonna end up splitting antes with someone that does make their low hand. |
I don't play much stud h/l, but i can't say this would be a good strategy. If you let too many people stay in this hand, there is even a higher chance someone will come up with a low, not to mention a better chance someone outdraws your rolled up 3s. If you let garbage in, someone can accidentally run into a str8 or flush that develops later in the hand.
This is a hand where you want isolation so you can scoop, as Strasse said. You already have a made high, which can scoop. Any opponent will be drawing likely to only half the pot, and with the threes practically dead and two 5s out, he doesn't stand a very good chance. |
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whyucallin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| you DON'T scoop with one way hands very often!! so you need to play this hand in a multiway pot & the only str8s that players should be drawing to are baby str8s. & when you start rolled up you have a decent chance to fill up. so on 3rd & 4th street you don't worry much about str8s & flushes. the LAST thing you want to do with a STRONG ONE WAY HAND is isolate & split the antes with someone that makes a 6542A. remember, ideally you're looking for small str8s that have a better than even chance to scoop & with rolled up 3s you make A-5, 2-6, & 3-7 str8s very difficult to make!!! here's the thing , if you play this hand 3 handed you're quite possibly only going to make 50 cents for every dollar you bet. for example, if, when the hand is over 3 players each have 10 dollars in the pot, the pot would be $30 (plus the antes, minus the rake)_ if you split with someone that does make a low hand you get $15, so you've bet $10 to win $5. that math doesn't work out too well. ideally you want to scoop,but with a strong HIGH ONLY hand you most likely won't. & if you isolate & play it 2 handed you could end up winning just a few pennies for the dollars you have invested in the hand.in the hand that was posted the rake equaled the antes, so if there had been a split the 2 players splitting would have won NOTHING. (with more raising the rake would have exceeded the antes so a split would have resulted in a net loss for 2 players splitting) play the odds.......rolled up trips don't lose often enough to get your panties in a bunch & raising too much too early might just isolate just a little bit more than you want & then for sure all you're getting is the antes & the bring in. & as you said a lot of the players could be drawing to 1/2 the pot. i say the more the merrier! |
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whyucallin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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BTW leemundy, that was a well played hand!!!!
the only thing that would have been even nicer than rolled up 3s in hi lo split IMO would be rolled up 4s or 5s 'cause then you can take even more possible str8s out of the picture. cause you need a 4 to make any str8 from A = 5 up to 4 - 8 & 5s eliminates the 5 - 9 str8s. could they still make one of those baby str8s ? yeah , it's possible, but i'd hate to be the guy chasin one out !!!! |
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leemundy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I was dealt 555 today, and damn stars disconnected me and didnt even post my ante (which was on auto post). So I basically folded this hand which was bad because I was also the bring in...man I wished I could of seen the potential that hand had ! |
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ioncannon11
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| I'm with strasse on this on; rolling up is great, but it's very fragile and a good deal of hands can beat it. Especially if you have multiple opponents in the same pot. You sure don't want a low being made either, and in my experience good players fold low cards if they are getting attacked with reraise after reraise. Good play overall, however. |
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