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Focus2828
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 Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Emmmm... |
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I have noticed when two people pick up pocket pairs e.g QQ vs KK the underdog will get a flush about 75% of the time weird huh  |
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wwcd5215
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Cas everyone wants a flushy! |
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st6truckie
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| wwcd5215 wrote: |
| Cas everyone wants a flushy! |
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IamV
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 75% sounds about correct. But hey, it could be worse. At least that shows it's not 100% rigged. |
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Focus2828
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have an example expect without the pockets involed lol
Full Tilt Poker Game #7699982508: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (58558709), Table 2 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:58:10 ET - 2008/08/18
Seat 1: bob808808 (54,425)
Seat 2: two and four (15,150)
Seat 4: eniosousa (13,170)
Seat 5: Focus2828 (49,250)
Seat 6: EarpWyatt314 (24,425)
Seat 7: LiraMoritz49 (64,990)
Seat 8: ekdrhrotkfkd (28,560)
Seat 9: GoldenBoy36 (20,030)
bob808808 antes 500
two and four antes 500
eniosousa antes 500
Focus2828 antes 500
EarpWyatt314 antes 500
LiraMoritz49 antes 500
ekdrhrotkfkd antes 500
GoldenBoy36 antes 500
two and four posts the small blind of 2,000
eniosousa posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Focus2828 [Ac Ks]
Focus2828 raises to 48,750, and is all in
EarpWyatt314 folds
LiraMoritz49 calls 48,750
ekdrhrotkfkd folds
GoldenBoy36 folds
bob808808 has 15 seconds left to act
bob808808 is sitting out
bob808808 has timed out
bob808808 folds
two and four folds
eniosousa folds
bob808808 has returned
Focus2828 shows [Ac Ks]
LiraMoritz49 shows [Kh Ad]
*** FLOP *** [7s 2c 3c]
EarpWyatt314: gl focus
*** TURN *** [7s 2c 3c] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [7s 2c 3c Qc] [9c]
Focus2828 shows a flush, Ace high
LiraMoritz49 shows Ace King high
Focus2828 wins the pot (107,500) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 107,500 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 2c 3c Qc 9c]
Seat 1: bob808808 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: two and four (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: eniosousa (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Focus2828 showed [Ac Ks] and won (107,500) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: EarpWyatt314 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: LiraMoritz49 showed [Kh Ad] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 8: ekdrhrotkfkd folded before the Flop
Seat 9: GoldenBoy36 folded before the Flop
that person was down to 15,000 and then came back to win the torney, i came third |
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Camby24
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmm... i would be more worried whay ur raising 12x bb preflop |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Camby24 wrote: |
| hmmm... i would be more worried whay ur raising 12x bb preflop |
Because anything else would be god awful here? |
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Camby24
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| hmmm... i would be more worried whay ur raising 12x bb preflop |
Because anything else would be god awful here? |
REally can u explain?? I always try to leave myself a back up plan!!! I guess it could depend |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Because he has a short stack and there are antes in the pot. If leaving yourself a backup plan means being able to fold later in the hand, you doing so in spots like this is an enormous leak no matter what you have. If your hand isn't good enough to get all-in with in OP's spot, you should be folding, not calling or making a smaller raise. |
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Camby24
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i can understand that point plus i didnt take into consideration the antes which makes even more sense, but my thinking is against two random cards(not been A or K) hes less than 60% ahead not taking into account if someone wakes up with a PP!!! |
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Camby24
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Im wrong his M is only 7.5, thats the right play!!! Im an idiot please ignore |
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bottlecapthief
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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This. |
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Camby24
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
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This. |
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Focus2828
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| i was gonna say the BB was 4,000 and for everyone it was either push or fold, i really didn't want to be raising then getting re-raised and then maybe fold, its a turbo final table what do you expect lol |
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