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big-boy-ramsey

I think i made the right move here,the only arument i can come up against it is that we were 3 from ITM.What would you have done? Pushed or waited till you were in........

Full Tilt Poker Game #7665537637: $3 + $0.30 Tournament (58196737), Table 12 - 300/600 Ante 75 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:41:15 ET - 2008/08/15
Seat 2: Mantisboy (15,835)
Seat 3: MISISIPI-BECK (12,321)
Seat 4: DARCYTUCKERRRR (9,877)
Seat 5: grouchy112 (6,510)
Seat 6: cross2000 (15,061)
Seat 7: dangerousdug (1,803)
Seat 8: the real deal6 (15,222)
Seat 9: nickyk (24,710)
Mantisboy antes 75
MISISIPI-BECK antes 75
DARCYTUCKERRRR antes 75
grouchy112 antes 75
cross2000 antes 75
dangerousdug antes 75
the real deal6 antes 75
nickyk antes 75
cross2000 posts the small blind of 300
dangerousdug posts the big blind of 600
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MISISIPI-BECK [Qh Qd]
the real deal6 folds
nickyk folds
Mantisboy folds
MISISIPI-BECK raises to 2,700
DARCYTUCKERRRR folds
grouchy112 folds
cross2000 calls 2,400
dangerousdug folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 6h 3d]
cross2000 checks
MISISIPI-BECK bets 9,546, and is all in
cross2000 calls 9,546
MISISIPI-BECK shows [Qh Qd]
cross2000 shows [9c Ah]
*** TURN *** [9h 6h 3d] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [9h 6h 3d 7d] [Ad]
MISISIPI-BECK shows a pair of Queens
cross2000 shows two pair, Aces and Nines
cross2000 wins the pot (25,692) with two pair, Aces and Nines
MISISIPI-BECK stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25,692 | Rake 0
Board: [9h 6h 3d 7d Ad]
Seat 2: Mantisboy folded before the Flop
Seat 3: MISISIPI-BECK showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: DARCYTUCKERRRR folded before the Flop
Seat 5: grouchy112 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: cross2000 (small blind) showed [9c Ah] and won (25,692) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 7: dangerousdug (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: the real deal6 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: nickyk folded before the Flop

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

The right move would be to not analyze hands just because you lost them to a suckout. Also, raise less PF so you don't have such awkward stack sizes on the flop and so your steals are cheaper.

big-boy-ramsey · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject:

I lost to a suck true,it happens,but im trying to get out of the habit of trying to bubble into the money,just wanted some feedback as to the play not the suckout!

Less raise noted tho,and i was trying to steal with the raise,really didnt want to play a hand here.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

I sure hope you weren't trying to steal since you had a huge hand. However, I also hope you will be trying to steal with other hands in that spot, in which case you'll want to raise less. In addition, you're more likely to get action with your big hands by raising less.

big-boy-ramsey · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:

Yeah this spot is one of many i'm trying to improve in.

What was going thru my head.....
..a re-raise and im out.
..a str8 call with a big bet after the flop with an over card on the board and i'm out.

It's tough to work on areas that im weak in there's so many,i just have to work on em as they come along.

Thanks for the input.

nohandnodraw · Four of a Kind Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 338

As Riddim already suggested, smaller raises would have served you a little better. You have to always consider that raises are not only used to drive people out of hands, but also to gather information. The interpretation of his pre-flop call depends on your read on how he was playing up to that point. His call could have easily been interpreted as indication that they were holding an ace or pocket pair. After the flop, a smaller raise would have given you a chance to get more value out of your hand, gather more information, as well as given you a chance to potentially get away from your hand.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

big-boy-ramsey · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject:

cubbies760 · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:

nohandnodraw · Four of a Kind Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 338

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

Yeah, you (nohandnodraw) talking in the past tense made me think you were referring to this specific flop rather than all flops that could've come.

big-boy-ramsey · Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks all for the input,and your right cubbies,playing scared near the bubble has been a huge problem for me in the past,tried not to play that way here and was just wondering if i made the right decision.

CMcAboy · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject:

I think it was a good move. If you would have won that hand, you would have plenty of chips to try to make your way to the final table. That was good play, so keep playing that way. Your good play will catch up to you eventually and when that time hits, you will be rewarded.

bingy1990 · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:01 am Post subject:

I try to play not scared but 'sensible' near the bubble. As for this, it was just a suckout and most of the time you double upto 30k + and you'd rtaher that then bleed chips until the bubble.

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