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colin attack
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Joined: 29 Jul 2008
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 Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: My first big bad beat in a MTT. Critique? |
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Playing in the 16k Guarantee, I was doing awful for a second time in a big MTT. Really thought I had a chance for bubble play, but then this joker comes along.
(Couldn't figure out the Hand Convertor, sorry!)
Full Tilt Poker Game #7499946175: $16,000 Guarantee (56279818), Table 35 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:37:35 ET - 2008/08/03
Seat 1: Bukash_22 (5,850)
Seat 2: gary-j8 (8,016)
Seat 3: ALMARZINHO (8,372)
Seat 4: colin attack (2,319)
Seat 5: GrossMann (5,380)
Seat 6: ohflmo (8,830)
Seat 7: Towers9 (11,794)
Seat 8: kfalik (7,549)
Seat 9: 0815User (4,750)
GrossMann posts the small blind of 100
ohflmo posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to colin attack [8c 8h]
Towers9 folds
kfalik calls 200
0815User folds
Bukash_22 folds
gary-j8 folds
ALMARZINHO folds
colin attack raises to 600
GrossMann folds
ohflmo calls 400
kfalik folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Qs 4h]
ohflmo checks
colin attack bets 1,000
ohflmo raises to 2,000
colin attack calls 719, and is all in
ohflmo shows [9s 7s]
colin attack shows [8c 8h]
Uncalled bet of 281 returned to ohflmo
*** TURN *** [4s Qs 4h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [4s Qs 4h 7h] [7c]
ohflmo shows a full house, Sevens full of Fours
colin attack shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
ohflmo wins the pot (4,938) with a full house, Sevens full of Fours
colin attack stands up
The blinds are now 120/240 with an ante of 25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,938 | Rake 0
Board: [4s Qs 4h 7h 7c]
Seat 1: Bukash_22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: gary-j8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ALMARZINHO didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: colin attack (button) showed [8c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 5: GrossMann (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ohflmo (big blind) showed [9s 7s] and won (4,938) with a full house, Sevens full of Fours
Seat 7: Towers9 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: kfalik folded before the Flop
Seat 9: 0815User didn't bet (folded)
So did I play this wrong? I don't feel I did, this joker just got lucky and ended up bubbling pretty deep.
-Colin- |
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tjb111
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i dont think you played it wrong at all
his play pre-flop was definately donky, but the flop basically forced him to see the hand to the end |
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byamamoto1
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| my only critique would be to shove on the flop. pretty much you commit yourself to hand by betting there, so you might as well give yourself the maximum fold equity, by shoving. theres already 1500 in the pot and you only have 1700 left. otherwise just a tough break. |
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Wayniac
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| byamamoto1 wrote: |
| my only critique would be to shove on the flop. pretty much you commit yourself to hand by betting there, so you might as well give yourself the maximum fold equity, by shoving. theres already 1500 in the pot and you only have 1700 left. otherwise just a tough break. |
Agreed. You're committing yourself, so you might as well shove the rest in. If you already decided that you aren't folding to a raise, then give yourself the best chance of winning by grabbing all of the fold equity you can. |
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mchu1026
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First bad beat, eh? Many more to come.
Don't sweat it. Move on. |
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Loopholes202
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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You can't really critique on a bad beat, it implies you got all your chips in when you were good (you did).
Your preflop raise set you up to all in the flop, well played. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Shove pre. As played I'd bet smaller on the flop to hopefully induce something. 550 or so seems good. |
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ATTHCTSYD
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Location: On an oil rig in the middle of the sea
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Shove pre every time. |
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bluestone10
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| All in PRE, under 10 MV |
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fire_eyes_2k
The Burn Card
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah shove pre, def. shove the flop |
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craigo6x
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It's really not even that bad a beat. When the money went in it was still almost a coinflip. You definately need to shove pre with your stack.
As for his preflop call- just dumb. You didn't have enough to warrant his calling, but once that flo came you couldn't get him to fold. |
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dag21
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Re: My first big bad beat in a MTT. Critique? |
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| colin attack wrote: |
Playing in the 16k Guarantee, I was doing awful for a second time in a big MTT. Really thought I had a chance for bubble play, but then this joker comes along.
(Couldn't figure out the Hand Convertor, sorry!)
Full Tilt Poker Game #7499946175: $16,000 Guarantee (56279818), Table 35 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:37:35 ET - 2008/08/03
Seat 1: Bukash_22 (5,850)
Seat 2: gary-j8 (8,016)
Seat 3: ALMARZINHO (8,372)
Seat 4: colin attack (2,319)
Seat 5: GrossMann (5,380)
Seat 6: ohflmo (8,830)
Seat 7: Towers9 (11,794)
Seat 8: kfalik (7,549)
Seat 9: 0815User (4,750)
GrossMann posts the small blind of 100
ohflmo posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to colin attack [8c 8h]
Towers9 folds
kfalik calls 200
0815User folds
Bukash_22 folds
gary-j8 folds
ALMARZINHO folds
colin attack raises to 600
GrossMann folds
ohflmo calls 400
kfalik folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Qs 4h]
ohflmo checks
colin attack bets 1,000
ohflmo raises to 2,000
colin attack calls 719, and is all in
ohflmo shows [9s 7s]
colin attack shows [8c 8h]
Uncalled bet of 281 returned to ohflmo
*** TURN *** [4s Qs 4h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [4s Qs 4h 7h] [7c]
ohflmo shows a full house, Sevens full of Fours
colin attack shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
ohflmo wins the pot (4,938) with a full house, Sevens full of Fours
colin attack stands up
The blinds are now 120/240 with an ante of 25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,938 | Rake 0
Board: [4s Qs 4h 7h 7c]
Seat 1: Bukash_22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: gary-j8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ALMARZINHO didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: colin attack (button) showed [8c 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 5: GrossMann (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ohflmo (big blind) showed [9s 7s] and won (4,938) with a full house, Sevens full of Fours
Seat 7: Towers9 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: kfalik folded before the Flop
Seat 9: 0815User didn't bet (folded)
So did I play this wrong? I don't feel I did, this joker just got lucky and ended up bubbling pretty deep.
-Colin- |
Not really much you can do there being that even if you do shove the flop there he most likely would have snap called with the flush draw. Tough beat don't let it get to you many more to come in those big events. Good luck in the mor to come. |
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