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packfan88
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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: the reason for the card shuffle at end of hand? |
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trying to figure out why it changes the order at showdown. Its kinda hard to get a read on a player when i dont know why or what its doing when it moves the cards around after the hand is over.
Im trying to see what someone plays and when he calls a raise but i have to scroll around to find out.
any insight? |
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IABoomer
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| That's why they do it. It's common in live play as well. |
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ManilaDog
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| because thats they way it would happen live,,,,,,,players would do it themselves??????????????????? |
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Cisco Espinal
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It really doesn't make a difference.
Your cards switch too ... so just check which of your cards switched and apply it to your opponents hand. |
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Strasse
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| No, it doesn't switch them in the same way. It always arranges them highest cards to the left, lowest cards to the right. Of course it only switches your down cards, and not your up cards. |
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packfan88
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Strasse wrote: |
| No, it doesn't switch them in the same way. It always arranges them highest cards to the left, lowest cards to the right. Of course it only switches your down cards, and not your up cards. |
not true |
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Strasse
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| packfan88 wrote: |
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| No, it doesn't switch them in the same way. It always arranges them highest cards to the left, lowest cards to the right. Of course it only switches your down cards, and not your up cards. |
not true |
Post a hh to prove me wrong then. |
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packfan88
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Strasse wrote: |
| packfan88 wrote: |
| Strasse wrote: |
| No, it doesn't switch them in the same way. It always arranges them highest cards to the left, lowest cards to the right. Of course it only switches your down cards, and not your up cards. |
not true |
Post a hh to prove me wrong then. |
You can look at anyhand and see that it doesnt list the cards high to low eve if you win the high hand.
Im looking at a hand that wa swith a King high flush. If they were in order, the cards would have went.
Ks 10s 9s 7s 5s (Jh 8h)
once turned over it was shown as
Ks Jh 9s 5s 10s 8h 7s
So i would like to know why this guy is calling a raise with K 10 8
Now I dont think he was, but since it shuffled the cards i dont know.
3rd st = 9s
4th st = 5s
5th st = 10s
6th st = 8h
So for every hand i am curious about i have scroll back and spend 5 minutes trying to figure out what he had and when. I want to know why it shuffles them. |
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sloshedzeus
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It doesn't shuffle all the cards, only the down cards.
Also, I think Fulltilt is correct in doing so. You wouldn't have that advantage in a live game. |
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Strasse
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| packfan88 wrote: |
| Strasse wrote: |
| packfan88 wrote: |
| Strasse wrote: |
| No, it doesn't switch them in the same way. It always arranges them highest cards to the left, lowest cards to the right. Of course it only switches your down cards, and not your up cards. |
not true |
Post a hh to prove me wrong then. |
You can look at anyhand and see that it doesnt list the cards high to low eve if you win the high hand.
Im looking at a hand that wa swith a King high flush. If they were in order, the cards would have went.
Ks 10s 9s 7s 5s (Jh 8h)
once turned over it was shown as
Ks Jh 9s 5s 10s 8h 7s
So i would like to know why this guy is calling a raise with K 10 8
Now I dont think he was, but since it shuffled the cards i dont know.
3rd st = 9s
4th st = 5s
5th st = 10s
6th st = 8h
So for every hand i am curious about i have scroll back and spend 5 minutes trying to figure out what he had and when. I want to know why it shuffles them. |
I said that it only shuffled the down cards, meaning the first two, and the last one. In your hh, it does that. The down cards are K, J, and 7. As you can see, it ordered them high to low, with the king being first, the jack being second, and the 7 being third. |
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francois8
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: Re: the reason for the card shuffle at end of hand? |
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| packfan88 wrote: |
| Its kinda hard to get a read on a player when i dont know why or what its doing when it moves the cards around after the hand is over. |
Just wanted to add that of course they have to do this and should do it. If someone catches trips on 7th or if they started out with them rolled up, if you knew which they had, you'd know how they played their hand. You don't have this advantage live (people shuffle) and you're not supposed to have this advantage as its not part of the game. Full Tilt does it the way that it should be done. The online game should play the same as a live game to the greatest extent possible. |
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