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MRT888
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: How to Satellite into FTOPS Reply with quote

SO I've decided I'd like to have a go at satelliting into a big FTOPS tourney (prob event 1, buying of 216 is too steep for my bankroll)

As of now I plan to follow the tier system- I am 3 for 5 getting a 26 dollar token in the 8 dollar SitNGos

Next I plan on the 18 player SnGs using the tokens that pay 5 75 dollar tokens and cash for 6th

Then rinse and repeat with the 75 dollar token(s) to get a $216 token

With that said, it seems like a lot of play to build up to it, although i think it is doable... Any ideas about how many tokens to try to accumulate at each level? I think just playing with one would make me feel rather pressured so I like already having 3 26 dollar tokens
Also, am I an idiot for not just playing the 8 dollar 36 player SnG where 1st gets entry and 2-4 get cash? I feel like I'd have to get lucky to win one but it might happen sooner than all these tiers.... Any thoughts?

EDIT: Also an option is a MTT with the 26 dollar tokens- 2 deats guaranteed.. seems like a bit of a long shot as well, depending on the # of entrants
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done it this way the 3 times that I tried to sat into FTOPS. All 3 times, I was successful.
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MRT888
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying drkato

Out of curiosity- what strategy did you use? build up a few tokens and then take however many you could to the next level, or just try to follow 1 all the way through until you made it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumpage

Have 4 tokens and Im gonna give it a go at the next tier- seems like its taking quite a while longer to fill up but hopefully It will get going in a bit
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If $216 is too steep for your bankroll, so is T$216.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to take a shot and if I can do so without risking my current bankroll than I dont see much harm in htat. Like I said I am using just recent profits in my token quests. If I can get in from one of my tries starting with 8 dollars, then it'd be more than worth it
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not telling you not to take the shot. There are plenty of valid reasons to do it. Just don't pretend you are playing within your BR.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRT888 wrote:
Thanks for replying drkato

Out of curiosity- what strategy did you use? build up a few tokens and then take however many you could to the next level, or just try to follow 1 all the way through until you made it?


I only had to follow one all the way. I parlayed my $6 or $8 all the way, with that being my only initial investment.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I failed to place in my first SnG fro Tier 2... Quite a heartbreaker- Short stacked with 7 players left and woke up in the SB with KK. UTG minraised and I pushed (a very small reraise, haha). Of course, he had AA and I bubbled just out of 6th place money or 1-5th token.... Feel good about getting that far thought and pretty sure I can have success in the future.

Nilgiri- So would you consider playing in any satellite to be out of one's bankroll? I'm pretty sure thats the whole point of satellites... you can play in big tourneys for a smaller fee if you are good enough to get there.
I can sort of understand that once i get to the next level 26 dollars is probably out of my BR, but its a token not cash. the initial 8 dollars is well within my BR
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have been quilty of doing the Token Run to either increase BR
or Sat. into a large MTT. I think you have to feel comfortable with it.
I also understand BR Mgt should be followed, but hey aren't there
exceptions to all rules Question ( Joke ) Just don't go of the Deep End... Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree- I suppose its just mental but I don't consider the tokens as cash, so that helps. Not saying i don't value them, lol, but If I get a token for 8 dollars- I dont consider using the token as spending the sticker price. I think I'm safe as long as I have the BR to support the 8 dollar investment. If I lose on my token attempts, I still havent lost my BR, and I think protection against losing one's BR is what "BR management" is all about, no?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRT888 wrote:
Nilgiri- So would you consider playing in any satellite to be out of one's bankroll? I'm pretty sure thats the whole point of satellites... you can play in big tourneys for a smaller fee if you are good enough to get there.


Yes, assuming the buyin for the tournament you play is out of your BR, it doesn't matter how you got there.

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I can sort of understand that once i get to the next level 26 dollars is probably out of my BR, but its a token not cash. the initial 8 dollars is well within my BR


So if you play an $8 SnG and win $26, is this different than if you win a token?

Look, as I said I'm not saying don't sat into tournies. All I'm saying is that you should be honest with yourself. $26 is $26, whether in token form or cash form. $216 is $216, whether in T$ or cash. Most people take shots outside their BR, but you should be honest that this is what you are doing when you do it.
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