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Wahooka
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Can you recommend a book? Reply with quote

I'm looking for some good books on the following topics:

1) how to beat small stakes No-Limit games

2) strategy for NL 6 handed table

3) strategy for 1 table sit n go

4) strategy for higher stakes no-limit

Thanks!

Wahooka
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_Xceptional
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Location: Sacramento, CA

PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok man, before I recommend you a book or two, we really need to get your mind set right.

You're looking for a book that covers low limit holdem, yet you're also looking for something that covers high stakes. Why?

I suggest reading Kill Phil for Single table sit and goes (STTs)

For lowlimit cash and general online play, Internet Texas Hold'em: Winning Strategies from an Internet Pro would be a worthy read.

You're not going to find a book on how to beat high limit poker, it's assumed you already know enough about the game and how to apply proper techniques.


I think your though process is a bit off here, stick with the two books I suggested, possibly read a beginners guide to NLH book, I think you might need that, Holdem Poker by Sklansky, or Phil Gordon's Little Green book. I'm not trying to sound condescending, but I'm a little worried at what your goals are, I think they're a bit skewed.
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Wahooka
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks...

Maybe you misunderstood me.. Im not interested in fixed limit...

Im looking for a book on low stakes NO LIMIT, my goals are to first learn how to beat a small stakes NL game, then eventually move up to $5-$10 NL... Why is that odd? Do you think one strategy or approach applies to both games?

Wahooka
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matt2411
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont worry about high stakes games, or shorthanded.

you will learn by PLAYING more than you will by reading. once you read up a bit and play, and then apply that at full table games (9-10 players), you will be able to learn by trial and error if you play SNGs.

over time your poker game will evolve naturally as you find out what works against what type of players, and what plays to make and when. Start at a full table, and read:

harrington on holdem vol 1
little green book
harrington on holdem vol 2
Mike Caro's Book of tells

in that order

play

80% ring games
20% SNGs.

Only play premium hands until you can start playing more hands and stay out of trouble when you can feel that you're beat.

as you start to massacre lower limits, you can loosen up your starting hand requirements a bit. once you graduate to $1/$2 i would recommend splitting your time between .1/.25 6-max tables (so you can get good experience at a 6-max table, but beware lots of trouble in short handed games) and $1/$2 full tables.

once you move to short handed read super system, and sklansky's advanced holdem.

and then reread all your old books.

always reread
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_Xceptional
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the thing. There's no book that's going to magically help you beat the game. Reading books, applying the information, and seeing WHY it does/doesn't work, and knowing when to use the information, will help you beat the game.

And what bothers me is that you talk about wanting to learn how to play and beat the low limit games, yet 5-10 NL is also on your mind. Where, and how fast do you plan on building a bankroll of 10K+ (barely enough to furnish 5-10 NL). To me, it seems like your motives are a bit miscunstrewed.

Focus on playing low limit poker for a while, 5-10 is not an easy game, people play these limits as jobs, they are good. Don't be quick to move up.
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Wahooka
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice... Xceptional, youre right, I shouldnt be thinking of moving up too quickly, thanks for the reality check. I know books arent magic, but right now I have too much experience and not enough knowledge, so I thought I'd focus on filling some gaps...

Why 20% sit n goes, and 80% ring games? Why full table not 6 person ?

Just curious..

Wahooka
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matt2411
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

80%/20% because it will allow you to transition from full table to short handed easier, and for a cheap cost.

also you want to be at full tables because it will allow you to develop your decision making skills, and reads on opponents.

the last thing you want to do is put yourself in a situation to be making decisions for a good chunk of change on marginal hands...

develop skill, and intuition before you put yourself where you are forced to make a lot of crucial decisions with middle pair, bottom pair, ace high, etc..
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caribstv
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Wahooka wrote:
thanks...

Maybe you misunderstood me.. Im not interested in fixed limit...

Im looking for a book on low stakes NO LIMIT, my goals are to first learn how to beat a small stakes NL game, then eventually move up to $5-$10 NL... Why is that odd? Do you think one strategy or approach applies to both games?

Wahooka



Its really doesn't matter what the blinds are your game should be the same.

1. you need to have a solid back ground is stragey
thats where the low stakes come in. pratice pratice pratice
2. had the bankroll to cover the shreiks you'll get on whatever game you're playing.
3. you have to feel comfrtable in the game..
if differnt when you're playing 1-2 nl and everyone mostly limps around and are weak. when raised the raise is generaly $12-15 dollars preflop
to say even a 2-5 Nl games where $60 dollars rasies aren't uncommon preflop. Then to have face a $150+ post flop isn't easy to digest if you're aren't comfortable with throwing that kinda money around.


Books: (1) Super System 1 or 2 the NL section is the same.
side note. ( most of the books you read, information always some how revert back to this book)
(2)Harrington on Hold 'em vol 1 & 2
(3)Championship No Limit & Pot Limit Hold 'Em

note. FSN (cable Channel) have a show called "learn with the pros" I watch it every week.. always have helpful tips.

I recommend reading "Harrington on Hold 'em" first and formost... at least 6 times..
its never ending learning curve
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