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leemundy
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Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: How to get away from this? |
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Ok, so my first post on this forum, but not the last: I am certainly not the best stud player, but I'm no beginner either. Anyway can Strasse or Zophar please critique what went wrong here?
PokerStars Game #18477543385: 7 Card Stud Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/06/30 - 00:20:05 (ET)
Table 'Izsak III' 8-max
Seat 1: connie12 ($19.30 in chips)
Seat 2: oldmoose32 ($31.30 in chips)
Seat 3: asange ($19.15 in chips)
Seat 4: xx105 ($37.70 in chips)
Seat 5: PoppaTMan ($20.75 in chips)
Seat 6: bubba2233 ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 7: H-Wood-Ray ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 8: leemundy ($10.40 in chips)
connie12: posts the ante $0.05
oldmoose32: posts the ante $0.05
asange: posts the ante $0.05
xx105: posts the ante $0.05
PoppaTMan: posts the ante $0.05
bubba2233: posts the ante $0.05
H-Wood-Ray: posts the ante $0.05
leemundy: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to connie12 [5h]
Dealt to oldmoose32 [3s]
Dealt to asange [Kd]
Dealt to xx105 [Ts]
Dealt to PoppaTMan [7h]
Dealt to bubba2233 [Ad]
Dealt to H-Wood-Ray [6c]
Dealt to leemundy [Qc Jc Jd]
oldmoose32: brings in for $0.25
asange: folds
xx105: folds
PoppaTMan has timed out
PoppaTMan: folds
PoppaTMan is sitting out
bubba2233: calls $0.25
H-Wood-Ray: calls $0.25
PoppaTMan has returned
leemundy: raises $0.25 to $0.50
connie12: folds
oldmoose32: calls $0.25
bubba2233: calls $0.25
H-Wood-Ray: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to oldmoose32 [3s] [4s]
Dealt to bubba2233 [Ad] [9d]
Dealt to H-Wood-Ray [6c] [5s]
Dealt to leemundy [Qc Jc Jd] [Kh]
bubba2233: checks
H-Wood-Ray: checks
leemundy: bets $0.50
oldmoose32: calls $0.50
bubba2233: calls $0.50
H-Wood-Ray: calls $0.50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to oldmoose32 [3s 4s] [5d]
Dealt to bubba2233 [Ad 9d] [2s]
Dealt to H-Wood-Ray [6c 5s] [Th]
Dealt to leemundy [Qc Jc Jd Kh] [8d]
bubba2233: checks
H-Wood-Ray: checks
leemundy: bets $1
oldmoose32: folds
bubba2233: calls $1
H-Wood-Ray: calls $1
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to bubba2233 [Ad 9d 2s] [8c]
Dealt to H-Wood-Ray [6c 5s Th] [6d]
Dealt to leemundy [Qc Jc Jd Kh 8d] [Qh]
H-Wood-Ray: checks
leemundy: bets $1
bubba2233: calls $1
H-Wood-Ray: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to leemundy [Qc Jc Jd Kh 8d Qh] [Td]
H-Wood-Ray: checks
xx105 is sitting out
leemundy: bets $1
bubba2233: calls $1
H-Wood-Ray: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
leemundy: shows [Qc Jc Jd Kh 8d Qh Td] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
bubba2233: shows [6h 2d Ad 9d 2s 8c Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
H-Wood-Ray: mucks hand
bubba2233 collected $12.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.40 | Rake $0.50
Seat 1: connie12 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: oldmoose32 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 3: asange folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: xx105 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PoppaTMan folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bubba2233 showed [6h 2d Ad 9d 2s 8c Ah] and won ($12.90) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 7: H-Wood-Ray mucked [Ac 5c 6c 5s Th 6d Tc]
Seat 8: leemundy showed [Qc Jc Jd Kh 8d Qh Td] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks |
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walter3215
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think I would have checked the river, since I would have to say you are only going to get a call from someone that can beat 2 high pair. Personally, I would have put you on jacks or kings up.
I would have been worried when ray paired his door card that maybe he has trips. Bubba just chased you down with crap & got very lucky. Look for him again. At that limit tho you have to expect play like that. |
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jerryhilo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Stud is the worst poker game ever invented. Period. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:51 am Post subject: |
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As played I think it's fine tbh. Even the 6th street bet vs. the paired doorcard is ok. When he doesn't raise here it makes it easy to bet for value on 7th as AA-2 pr. will usually call on 7th here. You played it aggressively, getting value out of each street and were outdrawn by a bad player. If the villian did have split AA, he played it very poorly and I wouldn't have given him credit for them either. Maybe that was his goal, but it's just stupid.
These hands will happen, try not to let them get to you and maintain the idea that you played it well. |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| jerryhilo wrote: |
| Stud is the worst poker game ever invented. Period. |
If this is your response in this strat forum, do not post here again. |
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leemundy
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Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| walter3215 wrote: |
| At that limit tho you have to expect play like that. |
Your exactly right on this one, I moved up to 3-6 and the donk play has been greatly reduced. At least now I will get called by split and hidden pairs, rather then nothing. The catching good still happens though..lol!!!  |
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Strasse
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| The thing that I hate about stud on stars, and I think it played against you on this hand, is the high bring in. Its half of the completion. I might be tempted to just call the bring in and bet out on 4th so people don't feel as obligated to chase youd own by putting in more money on 3rd. As played, I check 7th, as I have to be worried about flush draws. Also, in regards to that AA22 guy, I'd guess that he did start with split aces and just played it bad. You can't put him on that though. |
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leemundy
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Strasse wrote: |
| Also, in regards to that AA22 guy, I'd guess that he did start with split aces and just played it bad. You can't put him on that though. |
I actually figured him for aces, but with the way he was acting so passively (check-calling) it made me think he started with a three flush, caught four on 4th street and then was hoping for that last diamond. So I agree I misplayed seventh but there is not much you can do at this limit, that's why I moved up...Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it! |
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CanadianLuckBox
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Simple, don't bet the river unless you made trips or better. Especially in this spot. You can value bet Queen's up against one opponent.
Sometimes I've done it with one pair, but that's rare. |
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