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Online Poker Forum - Honest Rob's Guide to Beating HORSE SNGs
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alex j beeson
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Buns, yes it is a great read. I figure there may be some people interested in reading this. Honest Rob is the man.
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jaysbird1818
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: horse sng's Reply with quote

I suck at this -- any advice?
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alex j beeson
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Jaysbird, follow Robs advice for starters.

Welcome to the forums!
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mgodd
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just played my first ever HORSE SNG ($2+.25) and took it down (despite having to bring in about 20 times in a row in the 3rd round of razz Rolling Eyes ). Will definitely try playing more of these in the future. Thanks for writing this, Rob!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: horse sng's Reply with quote

jaysbird1818 wrote:
I suck at this -- any advice?

Play a whole bunch of the $1 HORSE SNGs. Everyone else playing those sucks too. It's a good way to learn. This is besides the obvious, read about each of the games in each section of this forum as well as in other forums and books etc.

Glad to see you guys liked the post. Smile
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to add some that wasn't discussed.

When it becomes short handed-3 or 4 left- look for any opportunity you can to pick up the little pots. The blinds/antes are so large at this point that you really can't pass any opportunity up. And this is almost regardless of your stack sizes.

If you're short stacked, you're often perceived as playing for your stack, not the individual bet. I'd say excluding O8, if the pot is unopened and there are no scary cards showing, you can steal w/basically any 3 cards in the stud games and any marginal+ in HE. Players don't often want to tussle with the short stack out of fear of doubling them up(There are obviously player specific exceptions).
I've excluded O8 where you really need 4 coordinated cards at minimum to steal because the SB/BB's are less likely to fold as hand values run so close. And if they do call and connect in any way, you will be showing down.

When big stack, players now fear elimination and are much less likely to get involved w/o a real hand. You can play even more aggressively because of this. You can have a little less concern for scare cards and have picked up a ton of fold equity. Even O8 picks up FE. With both you have the ability to fold to any action for a small loss, or if you improve well, you can jam it.

You can pick up pots in a variety of ways as well, and you'll know what's most suitable for the situation after a bit. Whether you need to raise or complete PF/3rd or limp/bet any flop/4th and with what regularity should become evident fairly quickly. As your hand and player reading skills improve, you'll be able to really control the action.
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