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sharkboy24
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I agree to disagree.....Limit is just a way to slow down all the huge bets that are in no limit...  |
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piggyitm
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| I disagree, I think that the ability to go all in and take away post flop play and allowing any donk to get lucky takes all the skill out of the game. I will play limit cash games til the day I die. Any time I need to build my bankroll I just hit the limit tables. It's a pleasure to play.. Esp on FT where the competition is good. |
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Le Schwartz
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I dunno, limit is a less expensive teacher of reading players cards, and it has helped me think about what my hand is gonna look like by the river ... it seems like 9 out of 10 times I flop two pair someone is on a flush draw (and sometimes a runner-runner flush draw ... top pair ace kicker just holding on for another ace or trips miraculously hits his flush on the river) ... but I dunno if you're going to enter a hand you have to evaluate your opponents hands, and learn to fold and save bets. It's a different game entirely, but players have more of an opportunity to develop skills that you might not as quickly learn in NLHE because you get to see more flops. I generally don't call to the river as most of the players do at the low limits ... and the money I save folding is money I win when they call me down and miss. What's to complain about ...
... I know it gets to me when I get outdraw several times in a row ... and steaming just causes me to lose more money. Winning at limit requires a different kind of discipline anyway.
I guess my only pet peeve is when players bluff at the pot with nothing and I reraise with a medium strength hand and then they hit a runner runner straight or (more likely) flush draw. That puts me through the roof. |
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yohananz
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Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: skilled player will always win |
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LIMIT is the most skillfull play.
All that was said is true you have 3 limmited options each step but
a skilled player will always win whaen there is more then 100 flops on a 1 to 1 game. |
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crapshot1
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| lol. but on a serious note i just started playing cash tables doing stakes 50-1 and 1-2 is there more money to be made from limit or no-limit in your opinion? |
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xhasanhabib
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: skilled player will always win |
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| yohananz wrote: |
LIMIT is the most skillfull play.
All that was said is true you have 3 limmited options each step but
a skilled player will always win whaen there is more then 100 flops on a 1 to 1 game. |
dude, please tell me you finished kindergarden at least. cuz its painfully obvious you didnt finish first grade, at least not on a poker level.
You really think LIMIT poker is more skillful to play/master than no limit?????? OMG from where do these tools crawl out from under?
Limit is very very unskilled, you sit and wait for cards, occasionally betting people out that miss draws and check raising the turn (not the flop) to maximize your profit. thats it. a monkey can play it and win.
No limit has no boundaries as far as the tools needed to win most of the time. there are no books on how to go from a NL to a Limit player, but theres plenty written about leaving the grade school tables of limit and jumping into NL. No wonder limit players, who are sitting there in coma at cardrooms, dumnb as monkeys, never win at NL. very very few can. You fish kill me with your dreams of grandure and skilll LOLOLOLOLOLOL |
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IABoomer
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: Re: skilled player will always win |
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| xhasanhabib wrote: |
| Limit is very very unskilled, you sit and wait for cards, occasionally betting people out that miss draws and check raising the turn (not the flop) to maximize your profit. thats it. a monkey can play it and win. |
Yet you seem to run into problems and pay off players. Does this mean you're dumber than a monkey?
I think to be a long-term winner takes more skill in LHE than NL/PLHE, since you can get lucky here and there and drag big pots to make up for your bad chases in NL/PL, but every bet you lose in LHE is one that you have to outplay someone for later.
[we now return to your regularly scheduled trolling] |
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xhasanhabib
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: skilled player will always win |
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| IABoomer wrote: |
| xhasanhabib wrote: |
| Limit is very very unskilled, you sit and wait for cards, occasionally betting people out that miss draws and check raising the turn (not the flop) to maximize your profit. thats it. a monkey can play it and win. |
Yet you seem to run into problems and pay off players. Does this mean you're dumber than a monkey?
I think to be a long-term winner takes more skill in LHE than NL/PLHE, since you can get lucky here and there and drag big pots to make up for your bad chases in NL/PL, but every bet you lose in LHE is one that you have to outplay someone for later.
[we now return to your regularly scheduled trolling] |
i just scratched my shaved balls. and.......? |
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sohail
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| If limit players are so unskilled, then why complain about it?!!!! Why not just take their money? I would complain about skilled players way before I start complaining about unskilled ones. Because, the skilled players take my money, not the unskilled ones. Now don't get me wrong, there are many unskilled players in limit, but there just as many in nolimit. |
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doorbread
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You're a disgrace to Hasan Habib.  He urinates on you.  |
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xhasanhabib
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| You're a disgrace to Hasan Habib. He urinates on you. |
seeing as youve never sat at any poker tables with hasan< what would you know about him. tool? if him urinating on youself turns you on, that might explain the reason your mom, sister and 'so called' girl friend all come to my house for some real loving and 'g spot hitting' action. (that mom, wow, she can really take some pounding!!!!!!!!
stick to cartoons, stay away from electrical outlets and anything sharper than a bowling ball, you inferior pissant. I pwn beeotchs like you all day long |
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p-nuttin
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YOU KNOW SOMETHING ,,MR PLAYERS,,ya'll are all stupid accept for a few here,,these forum's are not for you to come in here and have a opissing contest with each other!!! OMG there here to help people trry and learn if they want to try and learn something that did not know or understand!!
COME MODERATOR'S ,,KEEP THESE FOOLS OFFF OF here with there bull chit,!!! |
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rockycatt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: HOW UNSKILLED ARE LIMIT PLAYERS? |
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Limit hold em players on this site are the most unskilled of all poker players (if u want to cal them that) ive ever seen anywhere.
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Actually, i think you have it backwards. Limit requires a wider range skill set then NL does. In NL you can bet players off of hands, eliminate post flop play by going all in, easily fold good 2nd best hands when the action gets heavy, etc. In limit, you have to be sharper to sniff these things out, all while keeping track of the odds.
I agree, many players who play limit are unskilled, that is why they stick to limit. But winning in the long run in limit requires more skill, because you have to make plays (check raises, free card raises, well timed semibluffs) to give yourself a better chance to win.
I mean, i don't really mean to say that limit takes more skill, it just takes a very different kind of skill. |
agreed abslutly / no limit is more of blood guts all in from the flop
doesent mean a person is a god stratagy applier |
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nienie23
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Location: Laval, Quebec, Canada
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Dear xhasanhabib
I understand exactly what you mean. I am new to this game, having played no more than 3 weeks. I am sitting here, with notes from books, trying to play as best as I can and learning from mistakes. Today, I had a streak of bad cards. 12 orbits, 11 good hands. Once, I caught pocket Aces. Wow, said I. I read the board as best as I could, Tried to bet and raise as much as I could. Showdown: My beautiful pocket A and some other guy beautiful pocket Kings were beaten by some crapy 9-3 offsuit that caught a 9 on the flop and a 3 on the river. But unfortunately, that is how it is. If you play higher limits, you will probably have less of those but more good players who will beat you. |
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Flying_Kiwi
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