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Opinh Bombay · High Card Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 3

I was playing in a freeroll a week ago. This has been bugging me since.

There was about 2 minutes left in the second hour. There were about 300 players left out of 2000 or so starters. I had around 22K chips which was just above average. I'd been playing the best I've ever played to this point.

I'm on the button and am dealt AA. UTG raises a standard kind of raise. Several calls and when it gets to me, I re-raised. UTG reraises all in and I enthusiastically go all in which leaves me with about 400 chips. UTG shows me KK.

The Flop gives neither of us anything, but the turn is a K and the river is a bust.

And now I'm out of it. I win a hand next, but the blinds just kill me after that and I'm done.

Sad story.

So, did I do right? In a ring game, I'll go all-in preflop with AA with a song in my heart and a smile on my face. But I'm beginning to wonder if this was a good time to go all-in even though I did it KNOWING I had the best hand. Would a prudent tournament player have called it quits and not gone all-in?

Thoughts?

Geoff Whisler

Mmkay123456 · Full House Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 203

You must be joking! Of course you made the right play by going all in with AA. If I folded AA ever I'd have too shoot myself (unless there were somehow like 6 people all in already). But he just got lucky, I mean at least you didn't lose any money, it was a freeroll.

DownriverRick · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:58 am Post subject:

You got your money into the middle with the best hand possible at that point in the hand. You can't ask for anything more, and it shouldn't bother you.

Bronco232 · Full House Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 197

I think Doyle says the day he folds AA pre flop is the day he would stop playing.

tcwhat · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:33 am Post subject:

stu�pid
adj. stu�pid�er, stu�pid�est

1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job

doesn't look like what you met any of those criteria unless, of course, you were stunned that you still lost when the K hit the turn, and the river didn't save you.

IAmTheVietcong · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject:

You had a 4:1 advantage going into the flop. 80% of the time, you'd win that hand.

Turns out that this was one of those 20% hands you'd lose.

Gypsydc · Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:24 am Post subject:

I know you always second guess yourself when you lose...but you did go in with the best hand and that is the absolute best thing you can do. You wouldn't even ask this question had you won. Good call.

dmoore1998 · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject:

If it makes you feel any better bombay I played 2 MTT yesterday. Both times made the final table, first time i was 2nd in chips all in with AA against 2nd in chips all in with KK pre-flop. He hits a K on the turn and leaves me with 75 chips left and in the blind the very next hand. I go out one away from cashing. Next time I am 4th in chips and one away from cashing. UTG raises, I push, he calls with Q-10 suited and rivers a flush. So next time I have AA one away from the money at a final table I have 2 choices...call and win and feel some vindication. Or call and lose and hang myself with my computer cord:) Losing when you are all-in pre-flop with AA is probably the worst feeling ever...especially when you're calling someone else's all-in because you have no choice. You can't fold to a heads-up all-in pre-flop with them, one of the few times in poker I feel like I really have no decision I can possibly make and it kills me to lose on something that I basically HAVE to do.

dnix101 · High Card Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 1

you can't do anything if the race isn't won....the cards just came out against you

Kloaked Spirit · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 869

Unless you're ever in a situation where the Kelly Criterion says to fold, it's absolutly pointless to fold AA pre-flop.

Of course, if you were ever in that situation to begin with, you'd want to leave the table, or shoot yourself for putting yourself in that situation.

Guest · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject:

Thanks all for the confirmation.

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