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ThunderCrew
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Ace suited and Ace rags at higher "at stake" games Reply with quote

Ok alot on the line in these games and yet again 2 times I am ahead.
And oops runner runner flush and oops ace rag ten 2 pair turn river.

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP1: 7,850
MP2: 9,853
CO: 4,860
BTN: 2,040
SB: 3,323
Hero (BB): 7,830
UTG: 14,470
UTG+1: 11,458
UTG+2: 17,390

Pre-Flop: (240) J J dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to 640, 6 folds, Hero raises to 1,120, UTG+1 raises to 11,458 and is All-In, Hero calls 6,710 and is All-In

Flop: (15,740) 9 7 T (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (15,740) 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (15,740) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 15,740 Pot
Hero showed J J (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-7,830 NET)
UTG+1 showed A Q (a flush, Ace high) and WON 15,740 (+7,910 NET)




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HAND #2
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: 1,500
Hero (BB): 1,500
UTG: 1,500
UTG+1: 1,500
UTG+2: 1,500
MP1: 1,500
MP2: 1,500
CO: 1,500
BTN: 1,500

Pre-Flop: (45) 4 4 dealt to Hero (BB)
6 folds, BTN raises to 90, SB folds, Hero raises to 1,500 and is All-In, BTN calls 1,410 and is All-In

Flop: (3,015) 9 3 Q (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (3,015) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (3,015) A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 3,015 Pot
Hero showed 4 4 (a pair of Fours) and LOST (-1,500 NET)
BTN showed T A (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON 3,015 (+1,515 NET)


LORDY Laughing when I run bad I run bad huh.
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st6truckie
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 2 why push that early in the match with such a small pair? Any good A-x will probably call and your against a coin flip.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First hand-Rigged

Second hand- Don't agree with the shove but unlucky.
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ThunderCrew
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 44 is abd and trying to break that habbit but if ya see my sig it's my fav hand.
I know many "poker players" in here I see all the time calling hands winning and saying thats my favorite hand etc. When you got a favorite ya play it. I just play mine hard Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
yet again 2 times I am ahead.


Only barely ahead.
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ThunderCrew
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barley is still ahead isnt it ?
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cmbf117
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Losing a 54/46 is not a bad beat. Losing a 52/48 is also not a bad beat.

Jacks aren't as amazing as they look, especially since it's common for someone to play AQ+. And pushing with 4s like that? WTF are you thinking?
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ThunderCrew
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been getting better about my 44 and other small pp Ive even been folding them without action to me in early positions. And those odds may be correct but the runner runner outs 2 times is still sick no matter what. We are tlaking about paying 26.00 to enter and gaining upto over 400.00 for first so the topic still stands, with that on the line why people risk AX other then AK knowing they are obvisouly facing pockets and leaving thierselves mainly 6 outs IF im not holding an A or thier X as my pockets Or some miracle out like they recieved above.

You tlak about how bad my hands / or lpay was, what about the callers. IF you know you are most likley definatley behind why wuold ya call to catch up even at 45/55 or w/e Neutral .


Nut anyways As I said I am getting better and not shoving the smallpockets etc, even though I moan about thier losses they actualy win alot ofr me but im not oding it any more except when needed, just to save myself the headaches. Thanx all.
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Raddow
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you post a lot of hands regarding to losing a coinflip..... what's the point?

It's not like you could put em off the hand post flop or anytime later. No, you pushed all in, with hands, that -if they get called- are most like in a coinflip situation or worse!

Hand1: You are kind of short, push with the upper part of the flip and lost. Well, happens all the time...

Hand2: That's one of the worst plays i can imagine...(yet i see it often anyway) Why you push all-in with 44?
Do you just want the blinds? Do you want to be in a coinflip early? Or do you think you get called by 22 & 33? What is the point of this push? Everyone has the same stack. might be the first hand as well... that's ridiculous! That's just gambling and you should know it, so why complain about it?
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ThunderCrew
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you not reading the posts after that ?
I already said I am getting better about that, including folding 44 in unraised bad position spots.
Like say i am 3rd to act no action 5 to go after me I have been folding 44 etc.

I also have been working on not getting so upset with the beats even though they are harsh and foul at crucial moments. Like tonight wghen I was in thr 50 + rebuy. KK all in called against KJ KJ runs a straight to cripple me never recovered. I didnt post a HH and go "OMG blah blah etc" about that in here.
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