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Flying_Kiwi Message Board Junkie
Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 6522 Location: somewhere spacific
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: PLO - Turned straight, ugly paired river |
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Do you think we have to just give it up on this river?
Full Tilt Poker Game #7081471229: Table Sattes (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - $4 Cap Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7:50:24 ET - 2008/07/04
Seat 2: HoldEmPkerChick ($23.10), is sitting out
Seat 3: p0ker_p00rker ($3.70)
Seat 4: DabbleFlsh ($8.25)
Seat 5: Flying_Kiwi ($6.30)
Seat 6: dirk2340 ($8.75)
Flying_Kiwi posts the small blind of $0.05
dirk2340 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Flying_Kiwi [Tc 8h 6d 9d]
p0ker_p00rker calls $0.10
DabbleFlsh has 15 seconds left to act
DabbleFlsh calls $0.10
Flying_Kiwi calls $0.05
dirk2340 checks
*** FLOP *** [7h 8c 2s]
Flying_Kiwi bets $0.30
dirk2340 calls $0.30
p0ker_p00rker calls $0.30
DabbleFlsh folds
*** TURN *** [7h 8c 2s] [Jc]
Flying_Kiwi bets $1.30
dirk2340 calls $1.30
p0ker_p00rker folds
*** RIVER *** [7h 8c 2s Jc] [8s]
Flying_Kiwi checks
dirk2340 bets $2.30, and is capped
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BBCOACH44 Full Tilt Coach
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 3759 Location: Indoor Practice...AKA...Da Gym
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I think here I call.
But if in Tourney or larger stake game I may fold.
My 2 cents, now I will go do my poles........  |
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krazybangs Message Board Junkie
Joined: 21 Nov 2005 Posts: 1373 Location: Beyond Tilt
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I think you can still call here.
I dont read it as a value bet, but with just a call on the flop and turn, I don't read him as being on two pair or a straight. Possibly a flush draw after the turn. Just seems like he was weak flop/turn.
But thats just reading how the hand was played and without seeing his normal river plays, it would just be a guess.
I would have led with a 1/2 to 2/3 pot bet on the river, more as a blocker, but if I was raised, I could let it go with less than than it would have cost me to call a pot bet by checking. |
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Flying_Kiwi Message Board Junkie
Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 6522 Location: somewhere spacific
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I would have led with a 1/2 to 2/3 pot bet on the river, more as a blocker, but if I was raised, I could let it go with less than than it would have cost me to call a pot bet by checking. |
Agreed, I definitely think this is the better play on the river. |
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Pete D Pistol Pete
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 1119 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying_Kiwi wrote: |
| krazybangs wrote: |
| I would have led with a 1/2 to 2/3 pot bet on the river, more as a blocker, but if I was raised, I could let it go with less than than it would have cost me to call a pot bet by checking. |
Agreed, I definitely think this is the better play on the river. |
I'd agree with that in a non-capped game... a check represents a lot of weakness on the river, so it may induce a bluff. But it's capped, so a 1/2 pot bet on the river nearly caps it, so it doesn't accomplish what you want it to.
However, as played, I'd probably fold. At the low limits, I'd say he's holding a boat >80% of the time with a large bet like that unless he's shown a history of being a maniacal bettor/bluffer. Think of it this way... what would a typical player possibly be calling you with on the flop and turn? 87, 82, 72, 22, J8, JJ and/or 2 clubs.
Assume you'd get raised on the flop w/ 77, but even that hand is a possibility, albeit less likely. The only thing you can beat is 72 or 2 clubs. |
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Pokit2s Message Board Junkie
Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 1261
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm check calling here every time. Betting out is definately not the play. You arent getting called by a worse hand, and a boat is capping anyway. At least if you check you can get value out of the bluff he is making 30% of the time or so. |
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CompleteDonk LOLDONKAMENTS
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 2952 Location: I are serious cat, internet=serious biz.
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: |
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I'd probably end up calling here OTR TBH.
Also, I prefer a check/raise attempt OTF so you can get it in. You have a big draw and it's a cap game. |
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dontsuckonmepls High Card
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Wow, thats ridiculous |
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