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HuJwang
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| Are there any lotteries or casinos where employees are allowed to play? I think it's pretty obvious they shouldn't be allowed. There's plenty of other sites to choose from anyway. |
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cubbies760
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This thread is pretty stupid, imo.
Is the sky blue sometimes?
The obvious answers are usually the correct ones. |
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Flying_Kiwi
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| Is the sky blue sometimes? |
Not if you live in London, Beijing or Tokyo. |
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MaVaFonCulo
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This thread is pretty stupid, imo.
Is the sky blue sometimes?
The obvious answers are usually the correct ones. |
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
For example, I think your above quote is pretty stupid, kind of like you also seem to be pretty stupid.
Just an opinion.  |
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MaVaFonCulo
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| Are there any lotteries or casinos where employees are allowed to play? I think it's pretty obvious they shouldn't be allowed. There's plenty of other sites to choose from anyway. |
I agree with you. |
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MaVaFonCulo
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| No. I'm pretty sure this is standard practice. My friend who is a dealer at a particular casino is not allowed to play there. However, he can play at other casinos. Same deal here. If staff members really want to play online, they can always play at other sites. Even if they don't have any sort of special access, it's a sensible redundancy for the sake of protecting them from being accused of anything fraudulent. |
Exactly! I agree. |
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StevieWard
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If a staff member can only have account priviliges like "us" the normal players and users I dont see why not - they will end up being "normal" and have no advantages over anyone else so i dont see what the harm in it is.
I would surely assume that any super user accounts (if any) are closelty monitored or have passwords changed frequently to try and prevent te stuff that happened on AP and UB happening again. |
'If' is the key word. Also, I would say that its never safe to 'assume' anything about anyone. Money makes people do funny & not so funny things you know.
One things for certain, I wouldn't bet my cash on someone else's honesty. |
Fair enough - if thats the case, you would be as well not playing online poker at all. Theres no point in living in paranois - if you put it that way, for all you know the next time you sit down at a table, "kidpoker1982" sitting next to you could actually be John doe, a customer services Advisor for FT, but you will never know. I would imagine like in any business, staff who get the priviliges of using the business facilities would be monitored to make sure they dont take advantage. |
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MaVaFonCulo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| StevieWard wrote: |
| MaVaFonCulo wrote: |
| StevieWard wrote: |
If a staff member can only have account priviliges like "us" the normal players and users I dont see why not - they will end up being "normal" and have no advantages over anyone else so i dont see what the harm in it is.
I would surely assume that any super user accounts (if any) are closelty monitored or have passwords changed frequently to try and prevent te stuff that happened on AP and UB happening again. |
'If' is the key word. Also, I would say that its never safe to 'assume' anything about anyone. Money makes people do funny & not so funny things you know.
One things for certain, I wouldn't bet my cash on someone else's honesty. |
Fair enough - if thats the case, you would be as well not playing online poker at all. Theres no point in living in paranois - if you put it that way, for all you know the next time you sit down at a table, "kidpoker1982" sitting next to you could actually be John doe, a customer services Advisor for FT, but you will never know. I would imagine like in any business, staff who get the priviliges of using the business facilities would be monitored to make sure they dont take advantage. |
I guess if you stick to the smaller stakes, you should probably be safe.
As far as 'staff who get the privelage of using the facilities' goes, it is still a conflict of interest i.m.o.
And there is a point to 'living in paranois' as you put it, 'paranois' has kept street smart folks like myself from being mugged in a dark alley, or robbed at an atm machine at night.
Any 'legitimate' casino should not allow its staff to actually gamble in its own facility. Its just good old fashioned common sense. |
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DrAndrian
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| Staff should not be allowed to play. Even if they were not privvy to any special access, just the affiliation can cause unneeded suspicion. |
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MaVaFonCulo
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| Staff should not be allowed to play. Even if they were not privvy to any special access, just the affiliation can cause unneeded suspicion. |
I agree with you 100%. |
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StevieWard
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| MaVaFonCulo wrote: |
| StevieWard wrote: |
| MaVaFonCulo wrote: |
| StevieWard wrote: |
If a staff member can only have account priviliges like "us" the normal players and users I dont see why not - they will end up being "normal" and have no advantages over anyone else so i dont see what the harm in it is.
I would surely assume that any super user accounts (if any) are closelty monitored or have passwords changed frequently to try and prevent te stuff that happened on AP and UB happening again. |
'If' is the key word. Also, I would say that its never safe to 'assume' anything about anyone. Money makes people do funny & not so funny things you know.
One things for certain, I wouldn't bet my cash on someone else's honesty. |
Fair enough - if thats the case, you would be as well not playing online poker at all. Theres no point in living in paranois - if you put it that way, for all you know the next time you sit down at a table, "kidpoker1982" sitting next to you could actually be John doe, a customer services Advisor for FT, but you will never know. I would imagine like in any business, staff who get the priviliges of using the business facilities would be monitored to make sure they dont take advantage. |
I guess if you stick to the smaller stakes, you should probably be safe.
As far as 'staff who get the privelage of using the facilities' goes, it is still a conflict of interest i.m.o.
And there is a point to 'living in paranois' as you put it, 'paranois' has kept street smart folks like myself from being mugged in a dark alley, or robbed at an atm machine at night.
Any 'legitimate' casino should not allow its staff to actually gamble in its own facility. Its just good old fashioned common sense. |
I meant paranoia obviously. I used to work in McDonalds, and I bought my food there also, I worked for a double glazing company and used their services, and I work in the oil industry now and I buy parts through my employer that they use and service for my own gain - so surely these are the same thing and there are no problems with them?
I get why people would not want emplioyees to play, but if they are off duty and just wanting a good time, whats the harm in it really - there have no advantage over you. Talking of super user accounts - if thats why you wouldnt want them tio play then theres no point playing online full stop.
I'm not sure what you mean by your examples either. You woud be as well stay indoors forever as well. |
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Nositi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| StevieWard wrote: |
| MaVaFonCulo wrote: |
| StevieWard wrote: |
| MaVaFonCulo wrote: |
| StevieWard wrote: |
If a staff member can only have account priviliges like "us" the normal players and users I dont see why not - they will end up being "normal" and have no advantages over anyone else so i dont see what the harm in it is.
I would surely assume that any super user accounts (if any) are closelty monitored or have passwords changed frequently to try and prevent te stuff that happened on AP and UB happening again. |
'If' is the key word. Also, I would say that its never safe to 'assume' anything about anyone. Money makes people do funny & not so funny things you know.
One things for certain, I wouldn't bet my cash on someone else's honesty. |
Fair enough - if thats the case, you would be as well not playing online poker at all. Theres no point in living in paranois - if you put it that way, for all you know the next time you sit down at a table, "kidpoker1982" sitting next to you could actually be John doe, a customer services Advisor for FT, but you will never know. I would imagine like in any business, staff who get the priviliges of using the business facilities would be monitored to make sure they dont take advantage. |
I guess if you stick to the smaller stakes, you should probably be safe.
As far as 'staff who get the privelage of using the facilities' goes, it is still a conflict of interest i.m.o.
And there is a point to 'living in paranois' as you put it, 'paranois' has kept street smart folks like myself from being mugged in a dark alley, or robbed at an atm machine at night.
Any 'legitimate' casino should not allow its staff to actually gamble in its own facility. Its just good old fashioned common sense. |
I meant paranoia obviously. I used to work in McDonalds, and I bought my food there also, I worked for a double glazing company and used their services, and I work in the oil industry now and I buy parts through my employer that they use and service for my own gain - so surely these are the same thing and there are no problems with them?
I get why people would not want emplioyees to play, but if they are off duty and just wanting a good time, whats the harm in it really - there have no advantage over you. Talking of super user accounts - if thats why you wouldnt want them tio play then theres no point playing online full stop.
I'm not sure what you mean by your examples either. You woud be as well stay indoors forever as well. |
Those are really not very good comparisons. At all of those jobs, your getting a discount on these items is a nice little perk of working there. There is no real advantage in allowing Full Tilt employees to play on their site aside from a little more rake. However, to another customer, this looks fishy. Whether their suspicions are valid or not does not matter, it just makes good business sense to not allow employees to gamble on the site. |
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AARONWATSONUK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: LARGE DEGREE OF INSIDER WHOOPING |
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I AGREE LIKE THE INCIDENT AT ABSOLUTE POKER WHERE THE STAFF THOUHGT IT WAS FUNNY TO CHEAT AND CON EVERYONE ELSE ROUND THE WORLD FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
SAME THING IS PROBABLY GOING ON AT FULL TIT TILT....THATS WHY ALL THE RIVER CARDS SEEM TO HATE ME WITH A PASSION AND YOU GET THE BIG DONKEY ROBOTS GOING ALL IN WITH FUKALL AND CATCHING THAT MINUTE 1% OUTER ON THE RIVER ............
ITS AMAZING TO THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE YOURSELF A ROBOT AND GET IT TO PLAY FOR YOU ON THESE SITES...I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE CALLED POKERSMOKER,BUT THERES LOADS LIEK WINHOLDEM AND POKERBOT...
IT WORKS OUT ALL THE PERCENTAGES AND ALL THAT OTHE BULLCRAPP IT DEFIES BELIEF,WHOEVER THINKS THESE WORK IS A COMPLETE TWAT!!!
POKER STARS AS WELL INDUCES ROBOTS THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN ...SURELY IS ANYOEN GONNA DO ANTHING ABOUT THESE RIGGED SITES SO WE CAN ALL GET OUR MONEY BACK AND STOP FEEDING THOSE IDIOTS THAT RUN IT?????
THERES ALWAYS A REASON FOR THE CAUSE AND ALWAYS A CAUSE FOR THE HAPPENINGS!!! REMEMBER THAT WISELY WHEN URE STUCK IN THE RAIN WITH NO UMBRELLA!!!
IT BASICALLY MEANS SOMEONE IS SHIITING ON URE BONFIRE....
AND FULL TILT ARE ADAPTED TO FUK ME OVER EVERY DAY........... |
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wwcd5215
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: LARGE DEGREE OF INSIDER WHOOPING |
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I AGREE LIKE THE INCIDENT AT ABSOLUTE POKER WHERE THE STAFF THOUHGT IT WAS FUNNY TO CHEAT AND CON EVERYONE ELSE ROUND THE WORLD FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
SAME THING IS PROBABLY GOING ON AT FULL TIT TILT....THATS WHY ALL THE RIVER CARDS SEEM TO HATE ME WITH A PASSION AND YOU GET THE BIG DONKEY ROBOTS GOING ALL IN WITH FUKALL AND CATCHING THAT MINUTE 1% OUTER ON THE RIVER ............
ITS AMAZING TO THINK YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE YOURSELF A ROBOT AND GET IT TO PLAY FOR YOU ON THESE SITES...I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE CALLED POKERSMOKER,BUT THERES LOADS LIEK WINHOLDEM AND POKERBOT...
IT WORKS OUT ALL THE PERCENTAGES AND ALL THAT OTHE BULLCRAPP IT DEFIES BELIEF,WHOEVER THINKS THESE WORK IS A COMPLETE TWAT!!!
POKER STARS AS WELL INDUCES ROBOTS THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN ...SURELY IS ANYOEN GONNA DO ANTHING ABOUT THESE RIGGED SITES SO WE CAN ALL GET OUR MONEY BACK AND STOP FEEDING THOSE IDIOTS THAT RUN IT?????
THERES ALWAYS A REASON FOR THE CAUSE AND ALWAYS A CAUSE FOR THE HAPPENINGS!!! REMEMBER THAT WISELY WHEN URE STUCK IN THE RAIN WITH NO UMBRELLA!!!
IT BASICALLY MEANS SOMEONE IS SHIITING ON URE BONFIRE....
AND FULL TILT ARE ADAPTED TO FUK ME OVER EVERY DAY........... |
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Nositi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: LARGE DEGREE OF INSIDER WHOOPING |
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| AARONWATSONUK wrote: |
I AGREE LIKE THE INCIDENT AT ABSOLUTE POKER WHERE THE STAFF THOUHGT IT WAS FUNNY TO CHEAT AND CON EVERYONE ELSE ROUND THE WORLD FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
SAME THING IS PROBABLY GOING ON AT FULL TIT TILT....THATS WHY ALL THE RIVER CARDS SEEM TO HATE ME WITH A PASSION AND YOU GET THE BIG DONKEY ROBOTS GOING ALL IN WITH FUKALL AND CATCHING THAT MINUTE 1% OUTER ON THE RIVER ............ |
1% on a 52 card deck, that's cool. |
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