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Online Poker Forum - 25NL Open ender (line check)

 
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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: 25NL Open ender (line check) Reply with quote

Villain is 14/6/3(36)

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $44.45
Hero (SB): $27.40
BB: $18.25
UTG: $42.10
MP: $25.25
CO: $26.90

Pre-Flop: QClub KSpade dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 8Heart TSpade JHeart (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $13.75, Hero raises to $19.50, BB calls $3.75 and is All-In
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ew. this looks very spewy.

raising sucks, because i think you have close to 0 fold equity. i don't see a very tight player donking that flop so big with the intention of folding to a raise. calling sucks because only 3 of your outs give you the nuts AND allow you to get paid off. i just don't see any reason to do anything but fold to the flop bet.
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nilgiri
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think all your outs are clean against a 14/6. I doubt both Qs and Ks are clean outs, and it may be that hearts are not clean outs either. And like Hu said, I don't think you have a whole lot of FE here.

All that having been said, I'd probably take the same line. You've only got 36 hands on him, and he raised from the button. Have you seen the guy pot a c-bet before? That would probably convince to take this line. Do you have his button open-raise (steal) %?
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Raddow
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can see you making this play with Kh Qh, but this is spewy indeed.

A villain like this almost always connected hard when betting like this.

Maybe an overpair, but i think he protects a set here on this super drawy board.

folding tends to be the best play, if you call and a K or a Q hits it can get even worse.

An Ace will be your only action card, or will decline the action completely
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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW he called with AQo and really **** tilted me.
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I don't like this at all. Unless he opens really wide on the button for someone with his stats, this flop just smashes his range.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riddim wrote:
Yeah I don't like this at all. Unless he opens really wide on the button for someone with his stats, this flop just smashes his range.


re-read the HH
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuJwang wrote:
Riddim wrote:
Yeah I don't like this at all. Unless he opens really wide on the button for someone with his stats, this flop just smashes his range.


re-read the HH


oops. that def doesn't make me like it anymore though. BB donking for pot on this flop=not much FE.
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