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nilgiri · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject:

Bumpage?
Sorry this is so long... I'm not sure if it is helpful to people or not (I know I've forgotten most of the game at this point), but there's not too much more. Smile

JDizzzle72 · Royal Flush Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 533

bet out otf. 2/3 pot or so.

nilgiri · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject:

Meh, I don't think I'm getting called OTF by much that I beat, and there isn't much I'm afraid of showing up OTT. I think a turn bet is necessary, though. In an effort to speed things up a bit, I'll just post the rest of the hand and go on to the next one...

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HAND #67
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 80/160 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (BTN): 4,908
rjrloserx5 (SB): 5,179
Hero (BB): 4,348
HAYAAAAA (UTG): 3,115
springboard (UTG+1): 5,330
Mikeracer67 (MP1): 4,108
kurt23x (MP2): 2,612
spliff77 (CO): 2,115

Pre-Flop: (240) T

K

dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, Mikeracer67 calls 160, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (400) 2

2

K

(2 Players)
Hero checks, Mikeracer67 checks

Turn: (400) 8

(2 Players)
Hero bets 200, Mikeracer67 folds

Results: 400 Pot
Hero mucked T

K

and WON 400 (+240 NET)

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HAND #68
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 80/160 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (CO): 4,908
rjrloserx5 (BTN): 5,099
Hero (SB): 4,588
HAYAAAAA (BB): 3,115
springboard (UTG): 5,330
Mikeracer67 (UTG+1): 3,948
kurt23x (MP1): 2,612
spliff77 (MP2): 2,115

Pre-Flop: (240) 5

3

dealt to Hero (SB)
6 folds, Hero ???

JDizzzle72 · Royal Flush Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 533

I like raising to 400, 2.5x BB. You don't reeeeeeally mind a call here, you've got live suited gappers, and it's always possible to flop quads Wink

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject:

Folding isn't bad (I'd even say its standard at least for a TAG), since you only have a really low suited one gapper, but I'm guessing you didn't. It's hard for me to say that any option is really wrong here (well, pushing all in is probably bad Very Happy

), but the raise to 400 seems like a good idea if you are going to play the hand.

Waiting until the turn to bet the previous hand is fine with me.

nilgiri · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

I decided to slow play that monster hand. Didn't get much value for it, though. (For the record, I think limping PF like this is terrible. No idea why I did it...)

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HAND #68
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 80/160 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (CO): 4,908
rjrloserx5 (BTN): 5,099
Hero (SB): 4,588
HAYAAAAA (BB): 3,115
springboard (UTG): 5,330
Mikeracer67 (UTG+1): 3,948
kurt23x (MP1): 2,612
spliff77 (MP2): 2,115

Pre-Flop: (240) 5

3

dealt to Hero (SB)
6 folds, Hero calls 80, HAYAAAAA checks

Flop: (320) 6

8

5

(2 Players)
Hero bets 320, HAYAAAAA folds

Results: 320 Pot
Hero mucked 5

3

and WON 320 (+160 NET)

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HAND #69
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 80/160 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (MP2): 4,908
rjrloserx5 (CO): 5,099
Hero (BTN): 4,748
HAYAAAAA (SB): 2,955
springboard (BB): 5,330
Mikeracer67 (UTG): 3,948
kurt23x (UTG+1): 2,612
spliff77 (MP1): 2,115

Pre-Flop: (240) 5

5

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Mikeracer67 folds, kurt23x raises to 423, spliff77 raises to 686, 5 folds, kurt23x calls 263

Flop: (1,612) 9

6

4

(2 Players)
kurt23x checks, spliff77 bets 679, kurt23x folds

Results: 1,612 Pot
spliff77 mucked and WON 1,612 (+926 NET)

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HAND #70
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (MP1): 4,908
rjrloserx5 (MP2): 5,099
Hero (CO): 4,748
HAYAAAAA (BTN): 2,875
springboard (SB): 5,170
Mikeracer67 (BB): 3,948
kurt23x (UTG): 1,926
spliff77 (UTG+1): 3,041

Pre-Flop: (300) 4

5

dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, pongyisgod raises to 4,908 and is All-In, 5 folds

Results: 500 Pot
pongyisgod mucked and WON 500 (+300 NET)

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HAND #71
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (UTG+1): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (MP1): 5,099
Hero (MP2): 4,748
HAYAAAAA (CO): 2,875
springboard (BTN): 5,070
Mikeracer67 (SB): 3,748
kurt23x (BB): 1,926
spliff77 (UTG): 3,041

Pre-Flop: (300) J

Q

dealt to Hero (MP2)
3 folds, Hero ???

i am a donkeyaa · High Card Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 14

Depends what your looking for in my opinion. I don't like building a pot with J-Qs when a lot of hands that would call would have me beat if not dominated. But with your style i believe there is no problem in raising. Taking the blinds would be nice, but if you get a call you still have a decent hand to play. I would raise 2.5xBB (like Dizzle suggested), correct me if I'm wrong but the blinds are big enough you could probably get the same result from 2.5xBB raise as a 3 or 4xBB raise.

JDizzzle72 · Royal Flush Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 533

I fold, I don't like raising in this spot when BB has <10x BB. He's liable to push with any 2 high cards, in which situation you're probably behind. Any ace, where you'd probably be 60/40, or just resteal the pot and you can't call it with JQs. I lay it down

dcdoorknob · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject:

I think QJs is normally perfectly fine raising hand in this position. JDizzle does make a good point about the BB, but still I'd hedge towards a raise to 500. You can probably fold to a shove from BB, but that's not the end of the world, and what about all the times everyone folds?

nilgiri · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject:

JDizzzle72 · Royal Flush Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 533

nilgiri · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I think I have to call. One of the worse hands I could run into, unfortunately...

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HAND #71
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (UTG+1): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (MP1): 5,099
Hero (MP2): 4,748
HAYAAAAA (CO): 2,875
springboard (BTN): 5,070
Mikeracer67 (SB): 3,748
kurt23x (BB): 1,926
spliff77 (UTG): 3,041

Pre-Flop: (300) J

Q

dealt to Hero (MP2)
3 folds, Hero raises to 700, 3 folds, kurt23x raises to 1,926 and is All-In, Hero calls 1,226

Flop: (3,952) 2

5

3

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (3,952) 4

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (3,952) 9

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 3,952 Pot
Hero showed J

Q

(Queen Jack high) and LOST (-1,926 NET)
kurt23x showed J

A

(a straight, Five high) and WON 3,952 (+2,026 NET)

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HAND #72
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (UTG): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (UTG+1): 5,099
Hero (MP1): 2,822
HAYAAAAA (MP2): 2,875
springboard (CO): 5,070
Mikeracer67 (BTN): 3,648
kurt23x (SB): 3,952
spliff77 (BB): 3,041

Pre-Flop: (300) 7

3

dealt to Hero (MP1)
pongyisgod raises to 5,208 and is All-In, 7 folds

Results: 500 Pot
pongyisgod mucked and WON 500 (+300 NET)

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HAND #73
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (BB): 5,508
rjrloserx5 (UTG): 5,099
Hero (UTG+1): 2,822
HAYAAAAA (MP1): 2,875
springboard (MP2): 5,070
Mikeracer67 (CO): 3,648
kurt23x (BTN): 3,852
spliff77 (SB): 2,841

Pre-Flop: (300) 9

3

dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
3 folds, springboard raises to 500, 4 folds

Results: 500 Pot
springboard mucked and WON 500 (+300 NET)

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HAND #74
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (SB): 5,308
rjrloserx5 (BB): 5,099
Hero (UTG): 2,822
HAYAAAAA (UTG+1): 2,875
springboard (MP1): 5,370
Mikeracer67 (MP2): 3,648
kurt23x (CO): 3,852
spliff77 (BTN): 2,741

Pre-Flop: (300) 9

3

dealt to Hero (UTG)
3 folds, Mikeracer67 calls 200, 3 folds, rjrloserx5 checks

Flop: (500) K

T

9

(2 Players)
rjrloserx5 checks, Mikeracer67 checks

Turn: (500) 7

(2 Players)
rjrloserx5 checks, Mikeracer67 checks

River: (500) K

(2 Players)
rjrloserx5 checks, Mikeracer67 bets 200, rjrloserx5 folds

Results: 500 Pot
Mikeracer67 mucked and WON 500 (+300 NET)

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HAND #75
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (BTN): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (SB): 4,899
Hero (BB): 2,822
HAYAAAAA (UTG): 2,875
springboard (UTG+1): 5,370
Mikeracer67 (MP1): 3,948
kurt23x (MP2): 3,852
spliff77 (CO): 2,741

Pre-Flop: (300) 4

8

dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, spliff77 raises to 575, pongyisgod folds, rjrloserx5 calls 475, Hero folds

Flop: (1,350) K

4

8

(2 Players)
rjrloserx5 checks, spliff77 bets 800, rjrloserx5 raises to 1,600, spliff77 raises to 2,166 and is All-In, rjrloserx5 calls 566

Turn: (5,682) 5

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (5,682) 9

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 5,682 Pot
rjrloserx5 showed J

K

(a pair of Kings) and LOST (-2,741 NET)
spliff77 showed K

Q

(a pair of Kings) and WON 5,682 (+2,941 NET)

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HAND #76
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (CO): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (BTN): 2,158
Hero (SB): 2,622
HAYAAAAA (BB): 2,875
springboard (UTG): 5,370
Mikeracer67 (UTG+1): 3,948
kurt23x (MP1): 3,852
spliff77 (MP2): 5,682

Pre-Flop: (300) 9

T

dealt to Hero (SB)
5 folds, rjrloserx5 raises to 400, Hero ???

Should I make a stand here against a button minraiser who just lost a big pot?

JDizzzle72 · Royal Flush Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 533

If you were still above 4500, I'd say call and see a flop, but given your stack, I'd say fold

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject:

I'd just fold there.

nilgiri · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject:

I figured this guy was trying to steal blinds after losing a big hand. I don't know if this is a reasonable read or not. Obviously here it wasn't...

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HAND #76
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

pongyisgod (CO): 5,208
rjrloserx5 (BTN): 2,158
Hero (SB): 2,622
HAYAAAAA (BB): 2,875
springboard (UTG): 5,370
Mikeracer67 (UTG+1): 3,948
kurt23x (MP1): 3,852
spliff77 (MP2): 5,682

Pre-Flop: (300) 9

T

dealt to Hero (SB)
5 folds, rjrloserx5 raises to 400, Hero raises to 2,622 and is All-In, HAYAAAAA folds, rjrloserx5 calls 1,758 and is All-In

Flop: (4,516) Q

J

6

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (4,516) 8

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (4,516) 7

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 4,516 Pot
rjrloserx5 showed Q

A

(a pair of Queens) and LOST (-2,158 NET)
Hero showed 9

T

(a straight, Queen high) and WON 4,516 (+2,358 NET)

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HAND #77
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

skull0606 (MP2): 12,430
pongyisgod (CO): 5,208
Hero (BTN): 4,980
HAYAAAAA (SB): 2,675
springboard (BB): 5,370
Mikeracer67 (UTG): 3,948
kurt23x (UTG+1): 3,852
spliff77 (MP1): 5,682

Pre-Flop: (300) 5

A

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Mikeracer67 calls 200, kurt23x folds, spliff77 calls 200, 2 folds, Hero ???

Play A5o from the button? If so, limp or raise?

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