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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation
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Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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 Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: call or fold? |
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Villian had been quiet the first 20 hands or so. Then about 5 hands before this one, he lost most of his stack to a flush after paying off with just 2nd pair weak kicker. He then shoved his 900 chip stack 3 of the next 5 hands, doubling up the 3rd time with a JQ after he won a coinflip. Then this hand occured. Call or fold?
Full Tilt Poker Game #6913156648: $11,500 Guarantee (51853174), Table 18 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:23:18 ET - 2008/06/21
Seat 1: Mathman1115 (2,565)
Seat 2: DroneMan84 (1,964)
Seat 3: sazz1983 (885)
Seat 4: Shkn_Nt_Strd (6,683)
Seat 5: Deli Dave (2,640)
Seat 6: themoj777 (2,995)
Seat 7: marques07 (4,335)
Seat 8: TMC72104 (3,240)
Seat 9: Aikenhead (1,693)
sazz1983 posts the small blind of 25
Shkn_Nt_Strd posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mathman1115 [8c 8d]
Deli Dave folds
themoj777 folds
marques07 folds
TMC72104 folds
Aikenhead folds
Mathman1115 raises to 150
DroneMan84 calls 150
sazz1983 folds
Shkn_Nt_Strd has 15 seconds left to act
Shkn_Nt_Strd calls 100
*** FLOP *** [7d 9c 3c]
Shkn_Nt_Strd checks
Mathman1115 bets 400
DroneMan84 raises to 1,814, and is all in
Shkn_Nt_Strd folds
Mathman1115 has 15 seconds left to act
Mathman1115 has requested TIME |
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ATTHCTSYD
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Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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Location: On an oil rig in the middle of the sea
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Obviously you've a great chance against his range here, as there's no way he's on an overpair so you're basically looking at:
PP from 22-99
2 random high cards
suited connectors
Ace-rag
From this range, the hands that have hit a set or contain a 9 are well outnumbered by the hands you're beating. I can't be bothered doing the maths, but I imagine you can work that side of things out.. I call. |
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live4freerolls
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ATTHCTSYD wrote: |
Obviously you've a great chance against his range here, as there's no way he's on an overpair so you're basically looking at:
PP from 22-99
2 random high cards
suited connectors
Ace-rag
From this range, the hands that have hit a set or contain a 9 are well outnumbered by the hands you're beating. I can't be bothered doing the maths, but I imagine you can work that side of things out.. I call. |
How can you just eliminate an overpair immediately like that ?? Flatting in position with an overpair isn't uncommon at all. |
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ATTHCTSYD
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| It's unlikely he'd resist shoving an overpair. He's shoved the last few hands, and would have a great chance of getting a call if he wanted one pre-flop. |
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dcdoorknob
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| Yeah, I'm willing to go down if he's got me beat here. I'd call. |
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PsychoDonk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Fold. |
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PsychoDonk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| live4freerolls wrote: |
| ATTHCTSYD wrote: |
Obviously you've a great chance against his range here, as there's no way he's on an overpair so you're basically looking at:
PP from 22-99
2 random high cards
suited connectors
Ace-rag
From this range, the hands that have hit a set or contain a 9 are well outnumbered by the hands you're beating. I can't be bothered doing the maths, but I imagine you can work that side of things out.. I call. |
How can you just eliminate an overpair immediately like that ?? Flatting in position with an overpair isn't uncommon at all. |
Ha, we agree on something.  |
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mathman1115
Wizard of Odderation
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Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| live4freerolls wrote: |
| How can you just eliminate an overpair immediately like that ?? Flatting in position with an overpair isn't uncommon at all. |
I was aware of this, but i thought an overpair was very unlikely here. This would have been the perfect time for him to shove a bigger pair, knowing that with his little semi tilt the last few hands he would get called by a much larger range. I basically put him on a weak PF hand. The problem was i had to decide if whatever trash he played contained a 9. With about two seconds left after calling time, i decided to make the call. I can beat mid and bottom pair, a smaller pp, a draw, two overs, and ace high. I didn't put him on a set or he would have played it slower i think. Only a 9 kills me here, so i called. ****........
.................Mathman1115 calls 1,414
DroneMan84 shows [9s 5s]
Mathman1115 shows [8c 8d]
*** TURN *** [7d 9c 3c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [7d 9c 3c Jc] [6d]
DroneMan84 shows a pair of Nines
Mathman1115 shows a pair of Eights
DroneMan84 wins the pot (4,103) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,103 | Rake 0
Board: [7d 9c 3c Jc 6d]
Seat 1: Mathman1115 showed [8c 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: DroneMan84 (button) showed [9s 5s] and won (4,103) with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: sazz1983 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Shkn_Nt_Strd (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Deli Dave didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: themoj777 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: marques07 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: TMC72104 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Aikenhead didn't bet (folded) |
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