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ThunderCrew · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: Pot Limit Question

Ok I am sure this is rare and just a funny situation.....
But basicaly do crazy wild NL players like me (im insane Rolling Eyes

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Have an advantage over pot limit game ? Just tried my very first pot limit cash table and did this and left since I cleaned house and doubled up basicaly.

Got them to fold to flat ouit bluffs and darws etc and got them to all in when I had it.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6894672911: Table Muinos (6 max)
- $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 23:13:44 ET - 2008/06/19
ThunderCrew: n1
Seat 1: doingyourwife ($3.85)
Seat 2: Raceygal ($3.90), is sitting out
Seat 3: _QQNubJKLAWL_ ($0), is sitting out
Seat 4: RaftooN ($9.25)
Seat 5: auntjemima10 ($1.95)
Seat 6: ThunderCrew ($6)
RaftooN posts the big blind of $0.10
ThunderCrew posts $0.10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [3h 6c]
auntjemima10 folds
ThunderCrew checks
doingyourwife calls $0.10
RaftooN checks
*** FLOP *** [7d 9h 8s]
RaftooN bets $0.10
ThunderCrew calls $0.10
doingyourwife calls $0.10
*** TURN *** [7d 9h 8s] [4s]
RaftooN checks
ThunderCrew bets $0.30
doingyourwife folds
RaftooN folds
Uncalled bet of $0.30 returned to ThunderCrew
ThunderCrew mucks
ThunderCrew wins the pot ($0.55)

Full Tilt Poker Game #6894680107: Table Muinos (6 max)
- $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 23:14:18 ET - 2008/06/19
Seat 1: doingyourwife ($3.65)
Seat 2: Raceygal ($3.90), is sitting out
Seat 4: RaftooN ($9.05)
Seat 5: auntjemima10 ($1.95)
Seat 6: ThunderCrew ($6.35)
RaftooN posts the small blind of $0.05
auntjemima10 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [9d 8d]
ThunderCrew calls $0.10
doingyourwife folds
RaftooN raises to $0.20
auntjemima10 calls $0.10
ThunderCrew calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6h 7s]
RaftooN bets $0.30
auntjemima10 folds
ThunderCrew calls $0.30
*** TURN *** [Ks 6h 7s] [2c]
RaftooN checks
ThunderCrew bets $0.40
RaftooN calls $0.40
*** RIVER *** [Ks 6h 7s 2c] [6c]
RaftooN checks
ThunderCrew bets $2 <Flat out miss chase but bets at river and gets the fold
RaftooN folds
Uncalled bet of $2 returned to ThunderCrew
ThunderCrew mucks
ThunderCrew wins the pot ($1.80)

Full Tilt Poker Game #6894691065: Table Muinos (6 max)
- $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 23:15:09 ET - 2008/06/19
Seat 1: doingyourwife ($3.65)
Seat 2: Raceygal ($3.90), is sitting out
Seat 4: RaftooN ($8.15)
Seat 5: auntjemima10 ($1.75)
Seat 6: ThunderCrew ($7.25)
auntjemima10 posts the small blind of $0.05
ThunderCrew posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [6h 6c]
doingyourwife calls $0.10
RaftooN has 15 seconds left to act
RaftooN folds
auntjemima10 calls $0.05
ThunderCrew raises to $0.40
doingyourwife calls $0.30
auntjemima10 calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [4s 8h 2c]
auntjemima10 checks
ThunderCrew bets $1.20
doingyourwife raises to $2.40
auntjemima10 folds
ThunderCrew has 15 seconds left to act
ThunderCrew raises to $3.60
doingyourwife calls $0.85, and is all in
ThunderCrew shows [6h 6c]
doingyourwife shows [Kh 4c]
Uncalled bet of $0.35 returned to ThunderCrew
*** TURN *** [4s 8h 2c] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [4s 8h 2c 9h] [7s]
ThunderCrew shows a pair of Sixes
doingyourwife shows a pair of Fours
ThunderCrew wins the pot ($6.95) with a pair of Sixes
doingyourwife is sitting out

Full Tilt Poker Game #6894706353: Table Muinos (6 max)
- $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 23:16:21 ET - 2008/06/19
Seat 1: doingyourwife ($0), is sitting out
Seat 2: Raceygal ($3.90), is sitting out
Seat 4: RaftooN ($8.15)
Seat 5: auntjemima10 ($1.35)
Seat 6: ThunderCrew ($10.55)
ThunderCrew posts the small blind of $0.05
RaftooN posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [Js Jc]
doingyourwife adds $4
doingyourwife has returned
auntjemima10 has 15 seconds left to act
auntjemima10 calls $0.10
ThunderCrew raises to $0.40
RaftooN folds
RaftooN stands up
auntjemima10 has 15 seconds left to act
auntjemima10 calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [9c Ad 4h]
ThunderCrew bets $0.90
auntjemima10 folds
Uncalled bet of $0.90 returned to ThunderCrew
ThunderCrew shows [Js Jc] a pair of Jacks
ThunderCrew wins the pot ($0.85)

Full Tilt Poker Game #6894714351: Table Muinos (6 max) -
$0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 23:16:59 ET - 2008/06/19
Seat 1: doingyourwife ($4)
Seat 2: Raceygal ($3.90), is sitting out
Seat 5: auntjemima10 ($0.95)
Seat 6: ThunderCrew ($11)
ThunderCrew posts the small blind of $0.05
auntjemima10 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [8d 7d]
ThunderCrew calls $0.05
auntjemima10 checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Qs 6d]
auntjemima10 checks
ThunderCrew checks
*** TURN *** [6c Qs 6d] [4d]
auntjemima10 bets $0.20
HOLDEM DURHAM sits down
ThunderCrew raises to $0.50
auntjemima10 calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [6c Qs 6d 4d] [Td]
auntjemima10 checks
ThunderCrew bets $0.60
auntjemima10 calls $0.35, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.25 returned to ThunderCrew
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ThunderCrew shows [8d 7d] a flush, Ten high
auntjemima10 mucks
ThunderCrew wins the pot ($1.75) with a flush, Ten high
auntjemima10 is sitting out
ThunderCrew is sitting out

I went ahead and left with the near double up assuming it was flukey.
But basicaly does agression and insane play confuse pot limit playing regulars or not?

renegades8 · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject:

Buy in full. Also, please convert your hands (read the sticky in this section) so that it's easier to read. I don't really feel like commenting on any of the hands, but from reading the first hand you should just wait for the big blind instead of posting OOP, fold the flop, and as played check the turn. That's also way too small of a bet. There are definitely a few things different from no limit to pot limit (more-so in tournament than cash games) but I doubt that it really allows you to do things like push players off hands and just be super aggro, especially at these stakes. imo there isn't really anything all that different from playing 10NL to playing 10PL cash games.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

The only difference is that you can't overbet in PL. It's not that aggression confuses PL players, it's that basically anything confuses most players at those stakes. With that said, it does seem like PL games are generally a bit more juicy than NL ones. I only skimmed through the hands, but it seemed like you didn't exactly play most of them well. If you're looking for input on specific hands though, convert them and post fewer hands per thread.

ThunderCrew · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:21 am Post subject:

Thanks for the tips and input was just wondering.

Found out that agression doesnt always matter obviously with this suckout hand......

Even pot limit fools get the payout for bad plays so my thoughts are already disproved.

Full Tilt Poker Game #6922049948: Table Old Park - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot
Limit Hold'em - 2:10:04 ET - 2008/06/22
Seat 1: weewin22 ($3.70)
Seat 2: E Smails ($6.40)
Seat 3: megaboady ($2.40)
Seat 4: twriter ($6)
Seat 5: ThunderCrew ($4.25)
Seat 6: Lightning1976 ($13.40)
Seat 7: ynaderod ($8.85)
Seat 8: Whistler1956 ($7.85)
Seat 9: ryellium1 ($1.05)
E Smails posts the small blind of $0.05
megaboady posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #1
ThunderCrew: had a straight beat by flush or straight flush hehe'
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThunderCrew [Ah 8c]
ThunderCrew raises to $0.35
Lightning1976 folds
ynaderod raises to $0.60
Whistler1956 folds
ryellium1 folds
weewin22 folds
E Smails folds
megaboady folds
ThunderCrew calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [5c 4c 8h]
ThunderCrew bets $1.35
ynaderod raises to $5.40
ThunderCrew calls $2.30, and is all in
ynaderod shows [8s 7s] <<OK Really raised me on that preflop at pott limit ? AND wait until the river ............
ThunderCrew shows [Ah 8c]
Uncalled bet of $1.75 returned to ynaderod
*** TURN *** [5c 4c 8h] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [5c 4c 8h Th] [7h] <<BOOM there it goes bad play preflop bad play flop and paid out Smile

ynaderod shows two pair, Eights and Sevens
ThunderCrew shows a pair of Eights
ynaderod wins the pot ($7.80) with two pair, Eights and Sevens
ThunderCrew is sitting out

renegades8 · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject:

lol, fold preflop.

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