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Honest_Rob · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: Damn That's Annoying

Should I ever under any circumstances lead the flop?
CO is 14/7/3.4(1970)
UTG is 36/8/1.9(75)

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UTG: $23.95
UTG+1: $47
MP1: $52.95
MP2: $62.20
CO: $16.50
BTN: $16.55
Hero (SB): $26.10
BB: $31.30

Pre-Flop: Q Diamond

Q

dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.60, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.25, BB folds, UTG calls $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.65

Flop: ($16.50) A Diamond

A

9

(3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $11.25 and is All-In, 2 folds

HuJwang · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:57 am Post subject:

reads?

Honest_Rob · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:04 am Post subject:

drtre1987 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2131

If you are putting money in the pot, it pretty much needs to be a c/c. I don't see any value in betting. You'll almost never get called with worse. And if you do get called with worse, they would probably shove if you checked to them anyway. You will only get value from bluffs.

But I am not advocating calling here. Like HuJwang said, we need some reads. If this is a loose guy, this could be a snap call, but a sure fold against a nit. It really depends on who you are up against. Oh, but one good thing going for you is that you have blockers to AQ.

HuJwang · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:09 am Post subject:

wow that's so sick. as gross as check/folding seems with so much in the pot, it really looks like you have to.

fletch_smf · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:22 am Post subject:

So with 2 people calling a 3 bet, what stats on both opponents would justify calling the All In?

BladeBoyle · Pair Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 21

looks like he smacked a a2 for set two pairs agnst sets is a poker pattern ...when u have two pairs and the other guy bets half his stack or most its a set trust me.

a hds up pattern would be if im drawing. the other guy has a ace. or pair or is drawing after the flop you can nail the pattern down if you hit a pair he is most likely drawing.. or has an ace,, if a ace hits and he acts stong its yer pair vs his pair of aces point being two pairs are met by sets or better like JJ allin called by aq aa kk its a pattern

PokerJessO · Straight Flush Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 414

UFO1947 · Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:

Sand Wedge_100 · Full House Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 201

No need for him to bet here unless its a bluff, except for the high agression factor, which is probally the reason for the bet. He's got AK-AJ. If he had KK he prob would have gone allin preflop. I think he folds any other pp preflop, but if he didnt he would bet it here. You have lots of reads on the guy go with your gut.
BTW gl

gatorkid26 · Four of a Kind Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 326

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8177 Location: Sweden

I think you can prob just c/f, although I'd be a little worried since CO is so obviously terrible after calling PF and might end up calling because of that.

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