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lovebeefstew
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 Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: OK whats worse? My play or his call? |
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Whats worse? My slow check on the flop or his horrendus call on the turn?
Full Tilt Poker Game #6793569628: $7,000 Guarantee (50938252), Table 5 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:15:38 ET - 2008/06/12
Seat 1: Leggylad (3,460)
Seat 2: x4n3x (3,195), is sitting out
Seat 3: walpac (3,180)
Seat 4: Giggitygiggity0 (3,030)
Seat 5: LoveBeefStew (3,125)
Seat 6: k2umb (2,830)
Seat 7: EBmachine83 (2,535)
Seat 8: Ken de Man (2,930)
Seat 9: azakas10 (2,715)
EBmachine83 posts the small blind of 20
Ken de Man posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LoveBeefStew [As Kc]
azakas10 calls 40
Leggylad calls 40
x4n3x folds
walpac folds
Giggitygiggity0 folds
LoveBeefStew has 15 seconds left to act
LoveBeefStew raises to 160
k2umb folds
EBmachine83 folds
Ken de Man folds
azakas10 calls 120
Leggylad calls 120
*** FLOP *** [7d Ad 6h]
azakas10 checks
Leggylad checks
LoveBeefStew has 15 seconds left to act
LoveBeefStew checks
*** TURN *** [7d Ad 6h] [5h]
azakas10 bets 360
Leggylad has 15 seconds left to act
Leggylad calls 360
LoveBeefStew has 15 seconds left to act
LoveBeefStew raises to 2,965, and is all in
azakas10 calls 2,195, and is all in
Leggylad folds
LoveBeefStew shows [As Kc]
azakas10 shows [Kh 9h]
Uncalled bet of 410 returned to LoveBeefStew
*** RIVER *** [7d Ad 6h 5h] [8h]
LoveBeefStew shows a pair of Aces
azakas10 shows a flush, King high
azakas10 wins the pot (6,010) with a flush, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,010 | Rake 0
Board: [7d Ad 6h 5h 8h]
Seat 1: Leggylad folded on the Turn
Seat 2: x4n3x didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: walpac didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Giggitygiggity0 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: LoveBeefStew showed [As Kc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: k2umb (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: EBmachine83 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Ken de Man (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: azakas10 showed [Kh 9h] and won (6,010) with a flush, King high |
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Peepers_au
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| It's all pretty bad. |
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lovebeefstew
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| haha ty |
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bingy1990
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| None of it is very pretty! The check on the flop is very ugly and I'm sure you could have saved your chips by betting there. If he calls then obviously a donkey play but with two others in the pot you have to raise there. |
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lovebeefstew
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeh I realise that. I just went for a little play as ive been pretty card dead for a couple of previous tourns so wanted to make it pay. Hi call on the river was terrible tho you have to admit. I was pretty happy when he turned over those hearts. Just a shame he hit one, otherwise my terrible check may have paid off. As it happened, I paid the ultimate price. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Meh, your flop check is probably worse since he was getting almost 2:1 on his turn call and you're missing out on so much value by checking. |
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lovebeefstew
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeh.... id say theyre prob both as bad as each other. Not something I plan on doing very often lol |
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drewg22
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| lovebeefstew wrote: |
| Yeh I realise that. I just went for a little play as ive been pretty card dead for a couple of previous tourns so wanted to make it pay. Hi call on the river was terrible tho you have to admit. I was pretty happy when he turned over those hearts. Just a shame he hit one, otherwise my terrible check may have paid off. As it happened, I paid the ultimate price. |
He did have 12 outs at the point he called your all in. 9 hearts (including the 8) and the other 3 8's.
I am also betting he thought his K could be good since no one bet out on the flop. So in his mind he may have been thinking 15 outs and that your all in was just an attempt to steal.
I would have bet on the flop but if I didn't on the turn I just would have called or reraised rather than go all in at that point. |
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r410
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| i think in that situation u have to lead out with a decent bet. u checking on the turn opened the door for his donkey play. if u lead out and bet the ace with a strong bet u can either take the pot then or he would just fold his rags. after the check on the flop his all in was pretty bad but u may have been pegged for a 6 or a 7 by him. (aces usually bet) so when u shove it looks like a bluff to him and hes got a good shot to take the pot with hearts or the 8. its all risk vs reward. |
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PsychoDonk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're going to trap on flop why push on the turn? He played it horrible, but I don't understand why you would semi trap. |
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